Posting Pics of kid breastfeeding dolls

Words · 01-16-2012, 02:34 AM

EnderD,

I get what you are saying...kind of. Thing is, why all the fuss about these particular dolls? There are peeing dolls on the market, dolls with pacifiers, dolls that walk, dolls that talk, dolls that don't do anything...All of which could be seen as reinforcing the idea that most young girls will eventually be/want to be mothers.

I just think, to quote Martina, that it's weird that we think it's weird, because to me, that feels like it's us who are doing all the sexualizing.

Words

Soft*Silver · 01-16-2012, 03:09 AM

hate me if you will, but frankly I do not like breastfeeding in public. I dont need to defend myself here but I will say this: if I am sitting in a restaurant I dont want to watch a woman suckle a child. If I am in a theater, at a party, anywhere in public, I dont want to see this activity. If I am in someone's home or even if they are in my home and its time for baby to be fed, then by all means, breast feed. I changed my daughter out in the LR when she was a baby. I surely wouldnt do that in public. You can tell me its wrong to show genitals in public but not wrong to show a woman's breast in public and i will counter that its not her breast that bothers me, its about the "time and place" for certain acts.

and I wont engage in arguments about this. its how I feel and you can feel your way and neither of us has anything to do with whether or not jane Doe is going to feed her baby in public.. thats HER choice and I will fight for her to have that right. Even if its not what i would chose to do, nor want to see in public, its still HER right. my feminism is higher priority than my personal value laden proprieties.

BUT I do have concern with images of children on the cyberland. There are some strange fiends out there and I can see some of them constrewing the natural act of a child modeling breastfeeding into sexual erotica.

I know its meant to be sweet but images are never safe once they are in cyberland. I saw a doctored photograph of two elderly women where someone very skillfully made them barebreasted while they were drinking coffee in a restaurant. Another woman, who had elephantitus, was plastered all over this one site as the twinkie girl...making her medical abnormality into a bullyfest against an overweight girl. Did those elderly women or that woman with elephantitus every dream their photos would become beacons of ill humour on social networks? No! If they do that with simple photos, god help photos of children suckling dolls...

frankly, I wouldnt put any child's image in cyber until laws catch up to the technology leaps...

Martina · 01-16-2012, 06:40 AM

Newborns eat at least every four hours. Unless you want to force new mothers to stay home, they are going to have to breastfeed in public. It's always the time and place to feed a hungry baby. Unless you want to keep nursing mothers out of public spaces, it's always the time and place to breastfeed.

My response to people who don't want to see it is -- don't look.

Almost all states protect a mother's right to breastfeed.

People who feel uncomfortable about it and show that discomfort are the problem. No one should ever do anything to make a woman nursing in public feel self-conscious. She is doing the very best thing for her child.

i truly don't care what the source of some people's discomfort is. They really need to just not show it.

i even think that people ought to really hesitate before they share IN PUBLIC their feeling that seeing a woman breastfeeding bothers them. A nursing mother might hear. Or a woman who will be nursing at some point could hear. The states have made the decision, and the courts have upheld these laws time and again. It's over. There is no reason to make a nursing mother feel in any way like she has to worry about what others think. She doesn't need the stress. Nor does her baby.

Novelafemme · 01-16-2012, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martina

Newborns eat at least every four hours. Unless you want to force new mothers to stay home, they are going to have to breastfeed in public. It's always the time and place to feed a hungry baby. Unless you want to keep nursing mothers out of public spaces, it's always the time and place to breastfeed.

My response to people who don't want to see it is -- don't look.

Almost all states protect a mother's right to breastfeed.

People who feel uncomfortable about it and show that discomfort are the problem. No one should ever do anything to make a woman nursing in public feel self-conscious. She is doing the very best thing for her child.

i truly don't care what the source of some people's discomfort is. They really need to just not show it.

i even think that people ought to really hesitate before they share IN PUBLIC their feeling that seeing a woman breastfeeding bothers them. A nursing mother might hear. Or a woman who will be nursing at some point could hear. The states have made the decision, and the courts have upheld these laws time and again. It's over. There is no reason to make a nursing mother feel in any way like she has to worry about what others think. She doesn't need the stress. Nor does her baby.

<sigh> if only i could quadruple like this!!

01-16-2012, 03:09 AM	#2
SoftSilver Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: femme Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: rose cottage Posts: 5,592 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 8,948 Thanked 15,904 Times in 4,062 Posts Rep Power*: 21474857	hate me if you will, but frankly I do not like breastfeeding in public. I dont need to defend myself here but I will say this: if I am sitting in a restaurant I dont want to watch a woman suckle a child. If I am in a theater, at a party, anywhere in public, I dont want to see this activity. If I am in someone's home or even if they are in my home and its time for baby to be fed, then by all means, breast feed. I changed my daughter out in the LR when she was a baby. I surely wouldnt do that in public. You can tell me its wrong to show genitals in public but not wrong to show a woman's breast in public and i will counter that its not her breast that bothers me, its about the "time and place" for certain acts. and I wont engage in arguments about this. its how I feel and you can feel your way and neither of us has anything to do with whether or not jane Doe is going to feed her baby in public.. thats HER choice and I will fight for her to have that right. Even if its not what i would chose to do, nor want to see in public, its still HER right. my feminism is higher priority than my personal value laden proprieties. BUT I do have concern with images of children on the cyberland. There are some strange fiends out there and I can see some of them constrewing the natural act of a child modeling breastfeeding into sexual erotica. I know its meant to be sweet but images are never safe once they are in cyberland. I saw a doctored photograph of two elderly women where someone very skillfully made them barebreasted while they were drinking coffee in a restaurant. Another woman, who had elephantitus, was plastered all over this one site as the twinkie girl...making her medical abnormality into a bullyfest against an overweight girl. Did those elderly women or that woman with elephantitus every dream their photos would become beacons of ill humour on social networks? No! If they do that with simple photos, god help photos of children suckling dolls... frankly, I wouldnt put any child's image in cyber until laws catch up to the technology leaps... __________________ Pole bachit, a lis chuye. The field sees, the forest hears

01-16-2012, 02:34 AM	#1
Words Member How Do You Identify?: Queer femme submissive Relationship Status: Married Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Posts: 969 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 4,258 Times in 677 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	EnderD, I get what you are saying...kind of. Thing is, why all the fuss about these particular dolls? There are peeing dolls on the market, dolls with pacifiers, dolls that walk, dolls that talk, dolls that don't do anything...All of which could be seen as reinforcing the idea that most young girls will eventually be/want to be mothers. I just think, to quote Martina, that it's weird that we think it's weird, because to me, that feels like it's us who are doing all the sexualizing. Words

01-16-2012, 06:40 AM	#3
Martina Senior Member How Do You Identify?: * Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: * Posts: 4,999 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 13,409 Thanked 18,285 Times in 4,167 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	Newborns eat at least every four hours. Unless you want to force new mothers to stay home, they are going to have to breastfeed in public. It's always the time and place to feed a hungry baby. Unless you want to keep nursing mothers out of public spaces, it's always the time and place to breastfeed. My response to people who don't want to see it is -- don't look. Almost all states protect a mother's right to breastfeed. People who feel uncomfortable about it and show that discomfort are the problem. No one should ever do anything to make a woman nursing in public feel self-conscious. She is doing the very best thing for her child. i truly don't care what the source of some people's discomfort is. They really need to just not show it. i even think that people ought to really hesitate before they share IN PUBLIC their feeling that seeing a woman breastfeeding bothers them. A nursing mother might hear. Or a woman who will be nursing at some point could hear. The states have made the decision, and the courts have upheld these laws time and again. It's over. There is no reason to make a nursing mother feel in any way like she has to worry about what others think. She doesn't need the stress. Nor does her baby.