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Old 01-27-2012, 11:14 PM   #1
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I like where she said (to paraphrase and make it something more like how i would say something) who gives a shit how I got here - I'm here.

And can we please all just stop calling her bisexual? She gets to choose how to describe herself.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:22 PM   #2
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I like where she said (to paraphrase and make it something more like how i would say something) who gives a shit how I got here - I'm here.

And can we please all just stop calling her bisexual? She gets to chose how to describe herself.
You make it sound like Bisexual is a dirty word. Yes you are correct that she does get to choose who she is or how she wants to label herself...
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:43 PM   #3
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I have some old school lesbian feminist friends who believe, like Ms. Nixon, that they made a choice to be gay. They were able to enjoy sex with men, but once their feminist consciousness was awakened in the 1970s, they couldn't bear to spend very much time with them because of their typically irritating behaviours. One of those couples has been together for more than 30 blissful yrs, and they have sex all the time. I don't think it would be wise for anyone to suggest to them that they aren't really lesbians. So, Pat Robertson was right. Feminism turned them into lesbians.

I was born this way. I'm a very sexual person, and I've forgotten more men than most women ever bed in a lifetime. That information surprises most people since I'm such a ferocious lesbian now. I didn't stop having sex with men until I was 21 or 22 yrs old. (I'm pushing 50 now.) I IDed as bisexual back then, and later as a lesbian.

We all come to our IDs in our own way and in our own time. I'm sure it would be far more convenient if we were all exactly alike, but we're not.
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Why are we still trying to find the origins of homosexuality like it is a pathology? We've never sought out the cause of heterosexuality. Homosexuality is unusual, but so is being left handed.
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I really don't care how Cynthia Nixon chooses live her life . It's none of my business , it indicates she it's bisexual and it's her choice . yet , to us gay people going so public with this it's harmful to us since some people thinking we can be cure and we choose to be gay .
I born gay , but naive about my sexuality and growing up, I have a nobody to guide me and give me advice . As many of us I was doing so called "right thing " by society . I got married and have a child . Back then all my friends all ready have children and I was looked it like " what it's wrong with you ?" How come you don't have children , yet ?

I suffered a lot into my marriage which it's no need for me go to into any details . Until one day I met this butch women and it was like aha moment . I realized oh this is what is wrong with me .I haven't have a sex with men since then .

I know I will get it for my opinion , but I never been fond of bisexual people . It's really harming to our reputation since there are some homophobes they would like to cure me . No , thank you !
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I'm going to regret this.

Vlasta, how can you even say that you think bisexuals harm gays? How?

Hello. My name is Arwen. I partner with FTM's.

In some narrow-minded people's eyes, that makes me bisexual.

So I'm harming the gay culture now?

Really?

Can you take a step back and consider what you just said? Please?
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I'm going to regret this.

Vlasta, how can you even say that you think bisexuals harm gays? How?

Hello. My name is Arwen. I partner with FTM's.

In some narrow-minded people's eyes, that makes me bisexual.

So I'm harming the gay culture now?

Really?

Can you take a step back and consider what you just said? Please?
I knew I will get it for this one lol . I was not talking about FTM's . I was partnered with them as well . However , when a public person steps out and say it's my choice it gives an uneducated heterosexual people impression that we are perverts, unable to raise children in healthy environment since they have a two mothers or two fathers and we choose to be gay . Which is ridiculous !.

I am sorry Arwen as I much I have respect for you this it's just MHO , with bisexuals it's like I want my cake and eat it too .

I am not thinking you are harming the gay culture , I just think you went though an evolution with your sexuality as many of us .
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this it's just MHO , with bisexuals it's like I want my cake and eat it too .


Would you please elaborate on this statement?

How can someone being able to fall in love with either sex be *having their cake and eating it too?*

How is dating FtM's a *an evolution with your sexuality* but someone who is bisexual just playing around (that's how I interpreted your statement of having their cake and eating it too.)
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I watched a utube by Ivan Coyote this morning and in it he was talking about how some person on a pride committee stated that Pride needed to be more *Family Friendly*

IE: show the straight world more *mainstream* people and less Butches and Drag Queens..

Blink

I'm no quite sure why this thread brought that to mind, other than I had the same reaction to both..

Fuck what the straight world thinks about my community..

ya ya... I know, not very realistic, not very practical...

Cynthia Nixon is in love with her partner...
Her partner is a female..

Is that love less valid because she can fall in love and maintain a relationship with both sexes?

Do any of us think about what it's going to do to the *Community* when we fall in love?

Should we keep in the closet about how we feel to reinforce the illusion that being gay is strickly a biological deal and it can't be helped?

Re: Choice...

I'm a firm believer in the Kinsey Scale...

I believe that someone can choose to be gay, just the same as someone is born gay... I also believe in all the shade inbetween.

One is not less valid than the other..

There are no *Gold Stars*
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