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Old 02-18-2010, 01:26 PM   #1
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I think his website with the letter is on this page too:


www.embeddedart.com





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I was to late Day. They took the site offline because the FBI said so.
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Yeah....just reported here that the FBI has taken it down, and instructed the TV station to take it down, as well.
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I feel terrible for all the families who were affected by this guy's actions.

Not to veer this off course, but why when a white guy does it it's a crime but if he had been of a different ethnicity they would be calling it terrorism? It's terrorism, plain and simple. Home grown domestic terrorism. I call bullshit.
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I agree, that is entirely a terroristic act...and all because he had problems with his taxes? Please.

My hunny was so worried...hys sister works with the IRS and thankfully, it was another site where her office is, not this particular one.

I am saddened to know that an american man would do such a thing...we have been conditioned to expect that from others not homegrown in the US, but this is almost as heinous as that Nichols guy in Oklahoma. Thankfully, there weren't as many casualities although even one is too many.

I too, missed the page (site) but I am watching the TXCN news in Austin while I work...
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I was to late Day. They took the site offline because the FBI said so.

Well, I still had the tab open, and copy n pasted it into a document.

Anyone care to have it placed in here?



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Well, I still had the tab open, and copy n pasted it into a document.

Anyone care to have it placed in here?



It would be interesting to see.

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I would like to see it, yes.
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Uh.. guys... I wouldn't recommend posting it here. I don't think Jack and Medusa want the FBI visiting the site. I only suggest this as a caution.
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At present the full text is available at Huffington Post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...39.html?page=2

I would argue that had this man been brown skinned and named Hassan, holding every other variable constant including his suicide note, this would be played in the media as a terrorist attack (even though, strictly speaking, it is not in that although he had political grievances, his act was not meant to influence the political process).

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I have mixed feelings regarding the concerns of posting the manifesto of Richard Andrew Stack. I suspect there is a file on many of us here somewhere in the Belly of the Beast, aka Government.

Are you are a person that may have participated in "radical social change" in the past 30 years or so? I bet your name can be found somewhere and you are held suspect. Did you ever attend a peaceful meeting about anything do with the human rights of being LGBTQI?

I am not an anarchist but I do not delude myself in believing if we play by the rules the FBI or any other government entity will not view me or others like me with a modicum of distrust and suspicion. Why? Because we dare to live differently and not hang our heads in shame about it.

I do not condone what this guy did. It is flat out wrong to take the lives of other living beings. However, I am bemused that the FBI is removing Stack's rant from public review.
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I do not condone what this guy did. It is flat out wrong to take the lives of other living beings. However, I am bemused that the FBI is removing Stack's rant from public review.

Actually, that's normal. It's considered evidence in an ongoing investigation. Until the investigation is closed and everything verified, they will likely clamp down on publication of stuff (it also is for protection of his family as well).
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I have mixed feelings regarding the concerns of posting the manifesto of Richard Andrew Stack. I suspect there is a file on many of us here somewhere in the Belly of the Beast, aka Government.

Are you are a person that may have participated in "radical social change" in the past 30 years or so? I bet your name can be found somewhere and you are held suspect. Did you ever attend a peaceful meeting about anything do with the human rights of being LGBTQI?

I am not an anarchist but I do not delude myself in believing if we play by the rules the FBI or any other government entity will not view me or others like me with a modicum of distrust and suspicion. Why? Because we dare to live differently and not hang our heads in shame about it.

I do not condone what this guy did. It is flat out wrong to take the lives of other living beings. However, I am bemused that the FBI is removing Stack's rant from public review.
Reminds me of knowing I have more than one FBI file.... The third was started due to my seeing a woman divorcing a man that was being considered for a Special Agent post! I wondered who the hell those people lurking around were..... The second was after being arrested in an anti-Vietnam War protest. The first was for attendance at a Chavez rally. LOL.. what is really funny is that I got to read the files because of my partner's husband getting that FBI job!!!


Yup, one can end up having a file in quite a few instances. No, I don't condone this man's actions at all.


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I concur. But I'm waiting for the Admins to chime in on this. If the FBI took it down and then made the TV Station take it down. I'm not comfortable drawing the wrong kind of attention to this site. I think if you want to post it on your own blog, then you make your own personal decision to expose yourself to whatever. </end Mod Thoughts>

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I hear what you are saying, June. But my first thought was that it is a shame we are afraid of out own government.

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I hear what you are saying, June. But my first thought was that it is a shame we are afraid of out own government.

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If the gov't came to you with a warrant and said that you had to remove it, is it being afraid or being respectful of the law? I suspect that NBC got that (and I wouldn't be surprised if Huff gets it too).
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