Lower Dentures - one of the joys of aging

Glenn · 06-05-2012, 07:28 PM

I'll bite. I had lower dentures made twice. The first time, they were loose. So they relined them twice. I still did'nt like it. Then they started talking about pads and powders and glues, when all they had to do was make another new mold that fit right.. which costs mo money. Of course they want to be paid up front first again, and charge you for additional extras like anchors bla bla.. when all they had to do was get the first mold snug to begin with. Finially after paying for two molds...the fit is snug and they don't move. You can also get soft dentures with a pad put in...Grrrrr... Tell the a*******e you are not paying anything in full or anchors or any other bs until you get a snug fit the first time. Now I don't need any anchors or any of that cause their a snug fit capezi? Get another dental lab asap!

Kobi · 06-05-2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

I had lower dentures made twice. The first time, they were loose. So they relined them twice. I still did'nt like it. Then they started talking about pads and powders and glues, when all they had to do was make another new mold that fit right.. which costs mo money. Of course they want to be paid up front first again, and charge you for additional extras like anchors bla bla.. when all they had to do was get the first mold snug to begin with. Finially after paying for two molds...the fit is snug and they don't move. You can also get soft dentures with a pad put in...Blech!

Tell the a*******e you are not paying anything in full or anchors or any other bs until you get a snug fit the first time.

Thanks Glenn. So it sounds like you didnt have a problem with them staying in as long as you had a snug fit right?

Glenn · 06-05-2012, 07:42 PM

No ploblem Paisan

kittygrrl · 06-05-2012, 08:31 PM

I don't have this issue but I was in dentistry in my distant past. Lowers are notorious for requiring a rilly excellent denturist..and it's a crap shoot to find a dentist who cares enough to find the very best..i also think it has to do with what part of the country you live in..the west coast seems to have very good technical artists and everywhere else not so much..have an agreement with your dentist before any work is begun (including the extraction of any remaining teeth) that he (the dentist) will make sure it fits well (in writing)..and ask to speak with a few other clients who are happy with his/her work. Don't take for granted that just because you are happy with some of his other work that he is also good at making an impression and has an excellent technician to make the denture. It's ok, to be picky!

Beloved · 06-06-2012, 03:00 AM

I also work in the dental field and I have to chime in.

It's not always as simplistic as getting a good impression for a snug fit. Much of it also has to do on the anatomy of the patient's mouth. The more of a ridge that you have the better the chances you will not need anchors or glue. Other factors could include mandibular tori, the depth of the floor of the mouth, how long you have been missing some or all of your teeth, etc. It's not always the dentist fault if they move, but it can be.

Good luck. I hope you don't have any issues.

Kobi · 06-06-2012, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beloved

I also work in the dental field and I have to chime in.

It's not always as simplistic as getting a good impression for a snug fit. Much of it also has to do on the anatomy of the patient's mouth. The more of a ridge that you have the better the chances you will not need anchors or glue. Other factors could include mandibular tori, the depth of the floor of the mouth, how long you have been missing some or all of your teeth, etc. It's not always the dentist fault if they move, but it can be.

Good luck. I hope you don't have any issues.

This is interesting and kind of what I am curious about. I have consulted 3 different dental people, including a prosthodontist. All have the same mantra about needing anchors tho some are save these teeth to be the anchor at the modest cost of thousands of dollars, another advocated an implant except I am a smoker and that drops the success rate that the implant will bond to the bone properly.

I am the type who needs to understand why one thing is recommended over another. And, I tend to ask very pointed questions to help me understand amongst all the choices, why this over another. And, silly me, expects an answer that makes sense to me.

I have yet to find anyone who is saying anything specific to the anatomy of my particular mouth and how this affects what they are recommending. I am hearing what to me is a mantra of dental theory rather than person specific treatment plan.

Have worked in health care to know there is a distinct difference between the two.

I am also bothered by having the plan process changing as we go which is just a function of finding things they are not expecting. It happens but it is tiring to hear.... for this to work now we have to do crowning lengthening and stinting and this and that. All I end up hearing is a cash register and pain and a prolonged time frame.

I also dont understand how you can make an accurate impression when the impressions are including teeth that wont be there in the end. Seriously, how can that be accurate? That isnt logical to me. Can you shed some light on this?

Beloved · 06-06-2012, 05:13 AM

Making the denture before teeth are extracted is called an immediate denture. It will most likely have to be adjusted a few times as the gums and bone heal. The best way, if you don't mind going without teeth for while, is to remove the teeth and then wait 6 months or more until you have fully healed before making the denture. A lot of people are not willing to do that.

kittygrrl · 06-06-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kobi

This is interesting and kind of what I am curious about. I have consulted 3 different dental people, including a prosthodontist. All have the same mantra about needing anchors tho some are save these teeth to be the anchor at the modest cost of thousands of dollars, another advocated an implant except I am a smoker and that drops the success rate that the implant will bond to the bone properly.

I am the type who needs to understand why one thing is recommended over another. And, I tend to ask very pointed questions to help me understand amongst all the choices, why this over another. And, silly me, expects an answer that makes sense to me.

I have yet to find anyone who is saying anything specific to the anatomy of my particular mouth and how this affects what they are recommending. I am hearing what to me is a mantra of dental theory rather than person specific treatment plan.

Have worked in health care to know there is a distinct difference between the two.

I am also bothered by having the plan process changing as we go which is just a function of finding things they are not expecting. It happens but it is tiring to hear.... for this to work now we have to do crowning lengthening and stinting and this and that. All I end up hearing is a cash register and pain and a prolonged time frame.

I also dont understand how you can make an accurate impression when the impressions are including teeth that wont be there in the end. Seriously, how can that be accurate? That isnt logical to me. Can you shed some light on this?

I worked for an oral surgeon years ago and they (anchors) didn't seem very successful then and i don't believe they've made impressive progress since. It was a very expensive procedure 10 years ago about 40k for upper & lower and almost every patient had difficulty adjusting.. if i had to choose id rather take the less invasive procedure...just sayin

06-05-2012, 07:28 PM	#1
Glenn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Dear ol butch bones. Preferred Pronoun?: Old G Relationship Status: Too old to play. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: :rolleyes: Posts: 1,547 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,601 Thanked 3,729 Times in 1,095 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	I'll bite. I had lower dentures made twice. The first time, they were loose. So they relined them twice. I still did'nt like it. Then they started talking about pads and powders and glues, when all they had to do was make another new mold that fit right.. which costs mo money. Of course they want to be paid up front first again, and charge you for additional extras like anchors bla bla.. when all they had to do was get the first mold snug to begin with. Finially after paying for two molds...the fit is snug and they don't move. You can also get soft dentures with a pad put in...Grrrrr... Tell the a*******e you are not paying anything in full or anchors or any other bs until you get a snug fit the first time. Now I don't need any anchors or any of that cause their a snug fit capezi? Get another dental lab asap!

06-05-2012, 07:42 PM	#3
Glenn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Dear ol butch bones. Preferred Pronoun?: Old G Relationship Status: Too old to play. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: :rolleyes: Posts: 1,547 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,601 Thanked 3,729 Times in 1,095 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	No ploblem Paisan

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kittygrrl Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: witchy Preferred Pronoun?: Fae Relationship Status: just for fun Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: near the wild mushrooms Posts: 9,370 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 21,595 Thanked 21,952 Times in 7,076 Posts Rep Power: 21474861	I don't have this issue but I was in dentistry in my distant past. Lowers are notorious for requiring a rilly excellent denturist..and it's a crap shoot to find a dentist who cares enough to find the very best..i also think it has to do with what part of the country you live in..the west coast seems to have very good technical artists and everywhere else not so much..have an agreement with your dentist before any work is begun (including the extraction of any remaining teeth) that he (the dentist) will make sure it fits well (in writing)..and ask to speak with a few other clients who are happy with his/her work. Don't take for granted that just because you are happy with some of his other work that he is also good at making an impression and has an excellent technician to make the denture. It's ok, to be picky!

06-06-2012, 03:00 AM	#5
Beloved Member How Do You Identify?: alive Preferred Pronoun?: um Relationship Status: married Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: on the stars Posts: 460 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,415 Thanked 1,653 Times in 298 Posts Rep Power: 19348703	I also work in the dental field and I have to chime in. It's not always as simplistic as getting a good impression for a snug fit. Much of it also has to do on the anatomy of the patient's mouth. The more of a ridge that you have the better the chances you will not need anchors or glue. Other factors could include mandibular tori, the depth of the floor of the mouth, how long you have been missing some or all of your teeth, etc. It's not always the dentist fault if they move, but it can be. Good luck. I hope you don't have any issues.

06-06-2012, 05:13 AM	#7
Beloved Member How Do You Identify?: alive Preferred Pronoun?: um Relationship Status: married Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: on the stars Posts: 460 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,415 Thanked 1,653 Times in 298 Posts Rep Power: 19348703	Making the denture before teeth are extracted is called an immediate denture. It will most likely have to be adjusted a few times as the gums and bone heal. The best way, if you don't mind going without teeth for while, is to remove the teeth and then wait 6 months or more until you have fully healed before making the denture. A lot of people are not willing to do that.