LGBTQ Representation in the Media

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I'm taking a different angle with this post.

I am so angry about how the media is treating little Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.

The obsession with this child and her appearance is disgusting.

This fixation includes multiple articles on her appearance, as well as speculation of (even!) this child's orientation, reeks of homophobia and transphobia. Just b/c at age THREE (!?), she is not conforming to what the press/society wants her to look like, they are ALL OVER IT.

I feel gross even talking about it b/c she is just a child, but it does reveal a lot about the media and press and what happens when even a child does not conform to societal gender expectations when it comes to appearance.

Here's an article about it on After Ellen:

Shiloh Jolie-Pitt's haircut makes headlines
by Dorothy Snarker

[The_Lady_Snow]

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[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I'm taking a different angle with this post.

I am so angry about how the media is treating little Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.

The obsession with this child and her appearance is disgusting.

This fixation includes multiple articles on her appearance, as well as speculation of (even!) this child's orientation, reeks of homophobia and transphobia. Just b/c at age THREE (!?), she is not conforming to what the press/society wants her to look like, they are ALL OVER IT.

I feel gross even talking about it b/c she is just a child, but it does reveal a lot about the media and press and what happens when even a child does not conform to societal gender expectations when it comes to appearance.

Here's an article about it on After Ellen:

Shiloh Jolie-Pitt's haircut makes headlines
by Dorothy Snarker

No wayyyy, I had no idea.
Poor kid.

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

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Wow.

and he thinks its funny?

[The_Lady_Snow]

Is Shiloh was not some celebrities kid, no one would give a fuck..

Just sayin'

I call my son Worm it does not mean he is asexual

[TIMBERWOLF]

I really don't like the way TV shows gay/lesbian people on tv. There has been a few, like Billy Crystal when he played Jodie.I tried watching the L word from a patient that loaned me the tapes and i said no thanks after watching the first one, I guess I was a lucky kid growing up. 85 % of my mothers friends were gay and lesbian. Our neighbor's up the street were a Lesbian Latino couple. My mom use to go up and drink wine and was always invited to both houses when my parents threw a party or they threw a party. My Dad would go skinny dipping in the bay with the oldest one(Margo).Most of the cat breeders in our club were gay and lesbians.When I was coming out ,a couple of lesbian friends of my mom said has "s" crossed over yet and my mom said I think so.I had Uncle George and Uncle Edward a couple that were together for over 25 yrs that became my kids Uncles. My parents never put us in "roles" so I really thank my Great Spirit for having the parents i did and still to this day.I was the Tomboy and my sister was the "girlie-girl".
I think that TV and movies are moving forward to a more openness of how some gay or lesbians are in real life. Now if they can just get it together for the trans community.
TIMBER

[SassyLeo]

Wikipedia isn't always my favorite brand of data...but I couldn't find anything else as comprehensive.

List of TV shows with LGBTQI characters

Of note:

It appears that daytime Soap Operas were pretty progressive for the time...

Barney Miller?

I don't necessarily want to give Reality TV any kudos...but there have been many queer folks on various programs. With MTV leading the pack.

[suebee]

Over the weekend I remembered another episode of "All In the Family" that affected me. Edith's cousin passed away, and Edith went to recover a silver tea set that had been in the family for generations from her cousin's "room mate". Even though Edith wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree, she was always a kind woman. When she realized that the "room-mate" was really her cousin's partner, and that the two woman had shared tea from that tea set every day after work, she decided to leave the set with her. Edith worked from an emotional level and recognized what the woman was going through - no overt support for the loss of her partner, no claim on the tea set - which had great sentimental value for her......

I realize now that seeing that episode was an eye-opener for me, and may actually have been responsible for me staying in the closet for so long. It had never occured to me before that lesbians had to keep their relationships hidden.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

I'm taking a different angle with this post.

I am so angry about how the media is treating little Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.

The obsession with this child and her appearance is disgusting.

This fixation includes multiple articles on her appearance, as well as speculation of (even!) this child's orientation, reeks of homophobia and transphobia. Just b/c at age THREE (!?), she is not conforming to what the press/society wants her to look like, they are ALL OVER IT.

I feel gross even talking about it b/c she is just a child, but it does reveal a lot about the media and press and what happens when even a child does not conform to societal gender expectations when it comes to appearance.

Here's an article about it on After Ellen:

Shiloh Jolie-Pitt's haircut makes headlines
by Dorothy Snarker

I agree that the microscope treatment is difficult on adults, much less impressionable kids just trying to be themselves.

However, if I let my objective side take a walk and let my 'if it's in print, it MUST be true' side come to the foreground, I say flippin' excellent!

If Shiloh wants shorter hair and wants to dress tomboyish and wants to be called John and Brad and Angelina are doing it, brilliant. When I think about it, these are two of the most accepting people in the celebrity scene.

Besides, I actually prefer the shorter hair on her. It is absolutely adorable!

Now, back to the logical part of my post...yes, it's disturbing how much attention is fostered on kids in the media. Let them be, people.

Oh, and I also think that the representation our community has in the media is quite slim. There's no way to represent every branch of our community tree, but I wish they would try harder to do so and to make those characters really good and likeable. I do like Wong's character on SVU. But is being cast as a therapist the only way for our community members to receive a decent representation? Is that only field that 'good lil gay boys 'n girls' get to shine in (without becoming a caricature or stereotype)? That irritates me.

[Soon]

Originally Posted by Gemme

I agree that the microscope treatment is difficult on adults, much less impressionable kids just trying to be themselves.

However, if I let my objective side take a walk and let my 'if it's in print, it MUST be true' side come to the foreground, I say flippin' excellent!

If Shiloh wants shorter hair and wants to dress tomboyish and wants to be called John and Brad and Angelina are doing it, brilliant. When I think about it, these are two of the most accepting people in the celebrity scene.

Besides, I actually prefer the shorter hair on her. It is absolutely adorable!

Now, back to the logical part of my post...yes, it's disturbing how much attention is fostered on kids in the media. Let them be, people.

Oh, and I also think that the representation our community has in the media is quite slim. There's no way to represent every branch of our community tree, but I wish they would try harder to do so and to make those characters really good and likeable. I do like Wong's character on SVU. But is being cast as a therapist the only way for our community members to receive a decent representation? Is that only field that 'good lil gay boys 'n girls' get to shine in (without becoming a caricature or stereotype)? That irritates me.

Totally agree with your words I underlined.

What I don't agree with is the fact that the media is so concerned as to what this could MEAN for Shiloh's possible gender/sexual orientation.
This is how (not) far we have come in terms of anyone--even children--transgressing what society thinks is appropriate gender norms.

(and then you see them celebrating and praising Suri Cruise for her little heels and dresses; it's messed up).

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[Artdecogoddess]

Fascinating thread! I really enjoyed read it. Thanks to all who posted.

I have a strong memory of the first lesbian I saw on tv was also on All in the Family. Edith's aunt dies and she inherints a silver tea service. The aunts's partner goes to Edith and explains why the tea set is so important and asks if may have it instead.

I remember that Edith's initial confusion and then dawning awareness was priceless and meant to be for a laugh - yet she also very compassionately returned the tea set to the woman. I remember thinking - at age 7 or so - wow - that was the right thing to do. Its a powerful pop cultural memory and a good media portrayal, I believe.

[Greyson]

Last night I went to see Prodigal Sons. It is a full feature documentary film about Kimberly Reed a MTF Lesbian born and raised in Montana.

Maybe because I come from a large family that of course has its dysfunction this film spoke to me on many levels. Kimberly also has an adopted brother, Marc, who suffers from a brain injury and is estranged from his sister Kimberly.

The film reached across the standard fare and went a little deeper. Sibling rivalry, domestic violence abuse, adolescence, death, grief, hiding, deflection and facing some of the demons head on with authenticity and still hope.

This film IMO, portrayed a Transwoman and her family in a very forthright, real way, and with humanity. The film shows Kimberly not only as a MTF but as a human being with family and her journey in moving through the plethora of issues that come with transitioning.

I think LGBTQ people were portrayed fairly and with depth. It showed that Kimberly is so much more. She is not merely some social experiment and/or rebel. The fullness of much of her past and current life was captured.




http://http://www.prodigalsonsfilm.com/drupal/index.php

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[hpychick]

HowSoonIsNow, what a great thread. I think it raises a good deal of questions, and perhaps we won't solve the *GLBTQ in the Media* issue here, but it's a great forum to discuss.

As I read through the posts, I am both touched by the stories and a little concerned with some of the narrow-visioning displayed. We are so very quick to attack the media for the lack of GLBTQ representation.

Was it really so long ago that married heterosexuals were even allowed to share the same bed on television? Was it so long ago, that they were allowed to kiss, or hold hands? When I was a child, I recall my parent's outward disapproval of a particular episode of Leave it to Beaver where the Beave held hands with a girl and let her kiss him on the cheek. And these were kids!!!! My parent's were outraged that this display of affection was being shown on television.

I remember Ozzie and Harriet, as well as June and Ward, and Luci and Desi all sharing separate twin beds. I always wondered if they pushed the beds together when the doors were closed. LOL.

My point here, if it isn't obvious, is that perhaps we need to give it time. The U.S. and its media has "come a long, baby." Is it where it needs to be, or even should be in our communities' eyes? Definitely not. But it is *somewhere* dear people of GLBTQ identities. It is somewhere that it wasn't 10 years ago; hell, even 5 years in many cases.

As with all things, give it time. I believe a lot has and still is being done to bring *us* to the public eye. I know it will continue, and it will grow, and yes there will be mistakes along the way - but it is all carving the path for and to our representation in many forums.

[Forgetmenotfemme]

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