For Classic Movie Fans

[Martina]

Docudramas are not based on representative events but on actual events as they transpired, for example the raid on Entebbe. The filler in docudramas is just dialogue no one knows about. Sometimes liberties are taken with timelines for the sake of entertainment value, but they are based on actual events with real people and supposedly pretty much as they occurred. The characters in Best Years of Our Lives are fictional.

There is a dictionary of film genres online, or there used to be. i sent students to it when i taught American Film Genres years ago at The University of Michigan.

i am not debating you at all. This is the accepted definition.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Martina

Docudramas are not based on representative events but on actual events as they transpired, for example the raid on Entebbe. The filler in docudramas is just dialogue no one knows about. Sometimes liberties are taken with timelines for the sake of entertainment value, but they are based on actual events with real people and supposedly pretty much as they occurred. The characters in Best Years of Our Lives are fictional.

There is a dictionary of film genres online, or there used to be. i sent students to it when i taught American Film Genres years ago at The University of Michigan.

i am not debating you at all. This is the accepted definition.

Again, I don't care. it is based on the lives of real servicemen who came home and faced challenges that were real and existed, post war. And I would suggest that if, in film studies it is regarded as a melodrama, they change that definition because it conveys and depicts the life and times of post-war America. Frankly, I don't care if this movie is a docudrama a melodrama or a black comedy. I could care less, what's it's classified as because this movie doesn't speak to me as a film. It speaks to me as transman; and it's close to my heart as WWII hobbyist, a history buff, and the fact that it's sensitive socially and consciously from guys and film makers who were in the war and who cared enough about servicemen facing new challenges. I don't have to accept any other definition for these reasons which are good enough for me.

[cinderella]

This film by any other name, category, what-have-you, speaks to my heart as well. I love it, and I think it's one of the best films of this post-war, hero-coming-home-to-face-the-realities-of-life-back-home genre ever made.
Whenever it's on I will watch it. It always makes my eyes well up. I love the down-home sensitivity of it.

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

Again, I don't care. it is based on the lives of real servicemen who came home and faced challenges that were real and existed, post war. And I would suggest that if, in film studies it is regarded as a melodrama, they change that definition because it conveys and depicts the life and times of post-war America. Frankly, I don't care if this movie is a docudrama a melodrama or a black comedy. I could care less, what's it's classified as because this movie doesn't speak to me as a film. It speaks to me as transman; and it's close to my heart as WWII hobbyist, a history buff, and the fact that it's sensitive socially and consciously from guys and film makers who were in the war and who cared enough about servicemen facing new challenges. I don't have to accept any other definition for these reasons which are good enough for me.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by cinderella

This film by any other name, category, what-have-you, speaks to my heart as well. I love it, and I think it's one of the best films of this post-war, hero-coming-home-to-face-the-realities-of-life-back-home genre ever made.
Whenever it's on I will watch it. It always makes my eyes well up. I love the down-home sensitivity of it.

I do too comrade. There's just something about that era.

[Miss Scarlett]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

Again, I don't care. it is based on the lives of real servicemen who came home and faced challenges that were real and existed, post war. And I would suggest that if, in film studies it is regarded as a melodrama, they change that definition because it conveys and depicts the life and times of post-war America. Frankly, I don't care if this movie is a docudrama a melodrama or a black comedy. I could care less, what's it's classified as because this movie doesn't speak to me as a film. It speaks to me as transman; and it's close to my heart as WWII hobbyist, a history buff, and the fact that it's sensitive socially and consciously from guys and film makers who were in the war and who cared enough about servicemen facing new challenges. I don't have to accept any other definition for these reasons which are good enough for me.

The first time I saw this film I cried like a baby. I think that we forget that there is a life after the welcome home and sometimes that life is more frightening than the war itself. Fred just broke my heart even more than Homer.

[Jet]

Comrades, my idol....
William Wyler.
There isn't one of his films, I haven't enjoyed and admired.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJP3ZzOpt6k"]YouTube- William Wyler Interview with daughter Catherine Wyler[/ame]

William Wyler's first film was 1925.
Here are a few of his most memorable:

Funny Girl (1968)
How to Steal a Million (1966)
The Collector (1965)
The Children's Hour (1961)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Big Country (1958)
Friendly Persuasion (1956)
The Desperate Hours (1955)
Roman Holiday (1953)
Carrie (1952)
Detective Story (1951)
The Heiress (1949)
Thunderbolt (1947) (as Lt Col William Wyler)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
The Fighting Lady (1944) (uncredited)
The Memphis Belle: A Story of a Flying Fortress (1944)
Mrs. Miniver (1942)
The Little Foxes (1941)
The Letter (1940)
The Westerner (1940)
Wuthering Heights (1939)
Jezebel (1938)

[weatherboi]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gBpkp3aHA"]YouTube- To Sir With Love by Lulu and Dance by Sydney Poitier[/ame]

[cinderella]

Hey, Ol' Jet, did you catch the Warner Brothers documentary tonight? Unfortunately, I caught it midstream, but it was very interesting and insightful. Boy, that Jack L. was something, wasn't he? Not a very nice guy...however, I did like what they said about Harry, he was an altruistic human being in touch with life and people. I know I would have liked him alot - Jack, maybe not so much...

[Jet]

Originally Posted by cinderella

Hey, Ol' Jet, did you catch the Warner Brothers documentary tonight? Unfortunately, I caught it midstream, but it was very interesting and insightful. Boy, that Jack L. was something, wasn't he? Not a very nice guy...however, I did like what they said about Harry, he was an altruistic human being in touch with life and people. I know I would have liked him alot - Jack, not so much...

I didn't get to see it; still in the middle of a workout watching a movie on my 'puter. but i know jack was a shit. He and battling Betty , you know...