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[scootebaby]

Originally Posted by Martina

They also said that Lilith was a hallucination. I didn't get that. Maybe that was why it looked so cheesy.

i thought the same thing when Eric's maker(his name escapes me now) appeared and as he was talking, Eric looked towards Nora and he didnt see Lilith even tho Nora was looking at her

[Wolfsong]

Originally Posted by scootebaby

i thought the same thing when Eric's maker(his name escapes me now) appeared and as he was talking, Eric looked towards Nora and he didnt see Lilith even tho Nora was looking at her

Godric. His name is Godric... but WTF with him anyway? Is he like a Buddist vampire ghost? Vampires are not supposed to have souls, how can you be a ghost without a soul? Jeeze....... Lame lame lame

Smoke monsters..... Lame lame lame

The fairy bar.......... Lame lame lame

They've not explained Lillith or her tie to vampires. None of the known legends about Lillith have anything at all to do with vampires.

I do like Martha's character and the puppy is a cute touch.

[pajama]

I'm with y'all about everything y'all have said. I did like Pam's hair.....alot. And how she tries to be supportive. Then gets all pretend tough. So hot.

All the rest of it is pretty much stupid as hell.

I doubt that I will follow the television show past this season. The books are still good and I'll keep reading them. Maybe the producers neededtohave read the books too.

[*Anya*]

Oh, the second best thing besides Pam's crimped hair was the line that Bud, the retired sheriff said to Andy, when he asked Andy if he was finished.

It was something to the effect that he had to get back to the hot tub because he had some "male enhancement ointment".

That made me laugh out loud.

Martina, great tip about Television without Pity! I had never heard of it before but since my pity for True Blood is in very short supply these days, I better check it out.

Oh Scoote, very funny about Godric being a Buddist ghost!

I think we have our own TV without pity thread going on right up in here!

[pajama]

Okay. Now it's just kinda like watching Monty Python. It's just so over the top it's a comedic farce.

[Martina]

It's reminding me more and more of Lost actually. There were a couple of laugh out loud moments, one when Sookie apologized to Jason for hitting him with a blast of her fae power and he said not to worry, that she'd just gotten him in the head. Can't remember the second one.

It was awesome when Pam said to Tara something like "You don't know me. My happy face looks just like my mad face."

Ewww to Sam almost kissing himself.

Triple ewww to Russell spanking and flirting with that former born again creepy boy vampire. I wanted to say, "Russell, you would never had stooped so low if you hadn't been stoned. You can do better."

Some of Andy's responses were chuckle worthy. "Come on, buttplug." And just his reactions -- his face. Oh and when he said, "I hate this town." Chuckled again.

The seance was funny until the end. Pitting the two vets against each other -- another Lost moment. But Lafayette's faking the seance at first made me smile. And everyone else at the table was right on. Well done scene. (I want that table by the way. Nice woodworking.)

Alcide's ass -- yes! And Hoyt getting over his Jessica obsession -- thank you, Jesus.

It's so ironic that Jason and Eric are the voices of wisdom and compassion. Jason's talk to Sookie was so full of appreciation for how precious the little good one can get out of life is. There was a shot of him later in the background. He looked older and defeated, jaded, but thoughtful. It's interesting what they are doing with his character.

[*Anya*]

Originally Posted by pajara

Okay. Now it's just kinda like watching Monty Python. It's just so over the top it's a comedic farce.

So, so true! I wonder how great actors like Anna and Alexander can say this dialogue with a straight face.

I think this season is a lost cause.

What the hell happened to it?

[Ginger]

I love the show and as Mariamma noted, Pam's line, "My mad face is like my happy face" is an example of dialogue that sounds utterly new to me, as have other snippets, including "Peace is for pussies," "Humility is for humans," and "You smell awesome! What are you?"—none of which make sense outside of the social construct the show makes.

One of my least favorite aspects of the show is the heavy-handed analogizing with contemporary diversity politics.

It's fun to read people's comments about the show.

[The JD]

I liked the irony of the usually-aloof vampires walking down Bourbon Street all drunk and gawking and rowdy as so many humans are on Bourbon Street. That whole Lilith blood party scene reminded me of my acid trip days (well, minus all the blood and killing). I guess that's why I assumed both Lilith and Godric were hallucinations.

Originally Posted by Wolfsong

Godric. His name is Godric... but WTF with him anyway? Is he like a Buddist vampire ghost? Vampires are not supposed to have souls, how can you be a ghost without a soul? Jeeze....... Lame lame lame

Godric has appeared to Eric at least one other time since his "final death." He seems to represent Eric's higher self or superego, appearing each time to nudge Eric back on the right path. I'm a huge fan of the show Dexter- Godric's appearance reminds me of Dexter's dad, who has the same narrative purpose.

Originally Posted by Wolfsong

They've not explained Lillith or her tie to vampires. None of the known legends about Lillith have anything at all to do with vampires.

I do like Martha's character and the puppy is a cute touch.

They do very briefly explain Lilith, but if I weren't a Neil Gaiman fan, I would be SO lost (Gaiman devoted an entire issue to the myth of Lilith, and how she became the mother of demons/vampires). I think the vampire role playing game Vampire: The Masquerade also uses the Lilith-as-vampire-mother mythology, though Cain is named as the first vampire. This is all recent stuff, though-not in the vampire legends, as Wolfsong said. It's pretty fascinating to me how the vampire legends themselves evolve. I actually like the Lilith subplot.

I also like Martha's character- she's becoming more complex, more...dare I say, human. Less smoke monsters, more Were dynamics. I'm tolerating the fairies because they're investing so much time into that subplot that it must be going somewhere, right? But I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed.

[Wolfsong]

Originally Posted by The JD

Godric has appeared to Eric at least one other time since his "final death." He seems to represent Eric's higher self or superego, appearing each time to nudge Eric back on the right path. I'm a huge fan of the show Dexter- Godric's appearance reminds me of Dexter's dad, who has the same narrative purpose.

I think you are probably correct here. While I enjoy fictional works and characters, my mind cannot help itself when it says "Hey wait a second. Vampires have no soul and therefore no sense of right and wrong."

Also Eric told someone, I don't remember who now, that Russell was the strongest vampire he had ever met. Vampire strength (at least in this show) seems to be based on age. Godric knew Jesus (this was mentioned in an episode) and was older than Russell.

I know I know.......it's tv

Originally Posted by The JD

They do very briefly explain Lilith, but if I weren't a Neil Gaiman fan, I would be SO lost (Gaiman devoted an entire issue to the myth of Lilith, and how she became the mother of demons/vampires). I think the vampire role playing game Vampire: The Masquerade also uses the Lilith-as-vampire-mother mythology, though Cain is named as the first vampire. This is all recent stuff, though-not in the vampire legends, as Wolfsong said. It's pretty fascinating to me how the vampire legends themselves evolve. I actually like the Lilith subplot.

I also like Martha's character- she's becoming more complex, more...dare I say, human. Less smoke monsters, more Were dynamics. I'm tolerating the fairies because they're investing so much time into that subplot that it must be going somewhere, right? But I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed.

As you can imagine, I favor werefolk and shape-shifters over vampires any day. While many find vampires to be sexy and sophsticated, my impression has always been that of an alley prostitute wearing way too much make-up and perfume to mask the dirt and decay beneath. (The exception being Bela Lugosi in the 1931 version of Dracula). Even Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt in Interview With A Vampire (1994) had that kind of sense of underneath decay about them in spite of their sophistication.

My complaint is the continual portrayal of werewolves as hulking, slavering, stupid creatures. There has been 3 cinematic exceptions to this that I am aware of;

Blood and Chocolate
The Twilight series
TruBlood

Werewolves in B&C and Twilight were given a very nice shift into actual wolves which was nice to see. I thought the Twilight wolves were a little big.

The two movies that werewolves didn't look too bad were the original and the remake;

Wolfman with (1941) Lon Chaney
Wolfman (2010) with Benicio Del Toro & Anthony Hopkins

[Martina]

Seems like the shifters and were folk in Trueblood are the rednecks of the supernatural world, the werepanthers being the most in-bred and ignorant.

I do not find them that appealing, except for Alcide. Even Sam reminds me of guys I grew up with. Country boys in most respects except they played a few Eagles songs on the guitar and had read On the Road.

[The JD]

Originally Posted by Wolfsong

Also Eric told someone, I don't remember who now, that Russell was the strongest vampire he had ever met. Vampire strength (at least in this show) seems to be based on age. Godric knew Jesus (this was mentioned in an episode) and was older than Russell.

I know I know.......it's tv

Ha! I'm over-speculating right there with you! I was thinking about vampire bloodlines as well, and how the show has recently put more stress on the importance. Eric's whole speech to Pam seemed significant, that she was his only progeny and needed to preserve the line, or something like that. It seems strange to me that it was Eric (and not Bill) who got the moral wake-up call. Usually, Eric looks after Eric, and if it turns out to be the right thing to do, fine....whereas Bill seems much more motivated by doing what's right. So maybe it was Eric's bloodline that came through? We can be sure Bill's maker Lorena had nothing to offer Bill in that department...so maybe that's why Bill was still chomping down while Eric was having his little visitation with Godric?

Okay, okay, I'm done with the over-speculating (for now).

[Martina]

Bill's been so political and mealy mouthed lately that I was actually surprised when he told the truth to Salome and said that he thought that mainstreaming was right.

[Wolfsong]

Originally Posted by Martina

Seems like the shifters and were folk in Trueblood are the rednecks of the supernatural world, the werepanthers being the most in-bred and ignorant.

I do not find them that appealing, except for Alcide. Even Sam reminds me of guys I grew up with. Country boys in most respects except they played a few Eagles songs on the guitar and had read On the Road.

Who ISN'T a redneck in this show? The werewolves all give the illusion of being a Harley ridin' bunch but they have never to my knowledge, showed a single one of them on a bike.

Speaking of that on a bit of a tangent.....where the hell do these people work? We have the bar, which Bill owns, the local PD, and the guys that work for the city/county/parish. Most recently we have the gun shop. Even Mayberry had a barbershop.

Originally Posted by The JD

Ha! I'm over-speculating right there with you! I was thinking about vampire bloodlines as well, and how the show has recently put more stress on the importance. Eric's whole speech to Pam seemed significant, that she was his only progeny and needed to preserve the line, or something like that. It seems strange to me that it was Eric (and not Bill) who got the moral wake-up call. Usually, Eric looks after Eric, and if it turns out to be the right thing to do, fine....whereas Bill seems much more motivated by doing what's right. So maybe it was Eric's bloodline that came through? We can be sure Bill's maker Lorena had nothing to offer Bill in that department...so maybe that's why Bill was still chomping down while Eric was having his little visitation with Godric?

Okay, okay, I'm done with the over-speculating (for now).

Yeah, you would think after that speech she would have given a lot more thought to not only making Tara, but in training her. Who would put their kid on a stripper pole in some seedy vamp bar? Even Jessica has taken on the air of a "princess" and at least takes advantage of Bill's status as king. I would think that at the very least, the bar atmosphere would be a little beneath Pam.