Something I just noticed..the very logo of the site

Gentle Tiger · 08-21-2012, 07:40 AM

Really? Of all the things to spend mental energy on, are we really now dissecting someone's hard work for this community? Really? Have we run out of topics that will lead to positive discussion and moving instead to dissect the logo? Really???

I'm not moderating yet. I'm just amazed!

Miss Scarlett · 08-21-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gentle Tiger

Really? Of all the things to spend mental energy on, are we really now dissecting someone's hard work for this community? Really? Have we run out of topics that will lead to positive discussion and moving instead to dissect the logo? Really???

I'm not moderating yet. I'm just amazed!

i asked myself the exact same questions this morning...

NorCalStud · 08-21-2012, 03:59 PM

The very reason I am on this site is bcuz it is a Butch Femme site. I never never never want any other way. Just last nite I found myself kinda worrying whether there would ever be enough members who joined and did not identify as bf...to change this site into a gay blend of people who are not into identification. Reading responses today makes me feel better. I do not appreciate an implication(imply not infer)(lol) that bf is a faze and that in a bettr reality we dont need to identify. It took me awhile to find a safe place to land. If you dont believe it can make a difference for life...attend a reunion...and come home. Come home and see all of us being us.

Arwen · 08-21-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gentle Tiger

Really? Of all the things to spend mental energy on, are we really now dissecting someone's hard work for this community? Really? Have we run out of topics that will lead to positive discussion and moving instead to dissect the logo? Really???

I'm not moderating yet. I'm just amazed!

I think it has the potential to morph into something a bit bigger than the logo (which I personally adore). And it is a topic that traditionally we have always wandered back to.

Not the logo.
The binary thing.

I am the F.

*Anya* · 08-21-2012, 08:05 AM

Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar.

I absolutely love pink. It is my favorite color!

I decided to approach this issue differently, wondering if I loved pink for reasons other than sexism and the fact that I own mostly pink articles of clothing (including bras and panties).

This is only one of several studies that I found that present the findings regarding the how and why of possible preference for pink among most (please note that I said most before you write to me that you, personally, hate pink) women.

I found it fascinating. Oh and one of the researchers real name is Anya, so I really liked the findings.

Some preferences are biological in basis, not everything is unconscious sexism.

The flowing, curvey "f"? I would have to give that one some thought. Hey! I like it before you say anything! Trying to I inject some levity here!

ScienceDaily (Aug. 22, 2007) — A study in Current Biology reports some of the first conclusive evidence in support of the long-held notion that men and women differ when it comes to their favorite colors. Indeed, the researchers found that women really do prefer pink--or at least a redder shade of blue--than men do.

"Although we expected to find sex differences, we were surprised at how robust they were, given the simplicity of our test," said Anya Hurlbert of Newcastle University, UK. In the test, young adult men and women were asked to select, as rapidly as possible, their preferred color from each of a series of paired, colored rectangles.

The universal favorite color for all people appears to be blue, they found. "On top of that, females have a preference for the red end of the red-green axis, and this shifts their color preference slightly away from blue towards red, which tends to make pinks and lilacs the most preferred colors in comparison with others," she said.

Overall, the differences between men and women were clear enough that'll the seasoned researchers can now usually predict the sex of a participant based on their favorite-color profile.

To begin to address whether sex differences in color preference depend more on biology or culture, the researchers tested a small group of Chinese people amongst the other 171 British Caucasian study participants. The results among the Chinese were similar, Hurlbert said, strengthening the idea that the sex differences might be biological. The explanation might go back to humans' hunter-gatherer days, when women--the primary gatherers--would have benefited from an ability to key in on ripe, red fruits.

"Evolution may have driven females to prefer reddish colors--reddish fruits, healthy, reddish faces," Hurlbert said. "Culture may exploit and compound this natural female preference."

She said another way to separate "nature versus nurture" when it comes to favorite colors will be to test the preferences of infants. The researchers have plans to modify the color-choice test for use in young babies and hope to have some answers on that front soon.

About the universal preference for blue, "I can only speculate," said Hurlbert. "I would favor evolutionary arguments again here. Going back to our 'savannah' days, we would have a natural preference for a clear blue sky, because it signaled good weather. Clear blue also signals a good water source."

The researchers include Anya C. Hurlbert and Yazhu Ling of Newcastle Univesity in Newcastle upon Tyne,UK.

References

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0820120720.htm
Hurlbert and Ling: "Biological components of sex differences in colour preference." Publishing in Current Biology, 21 August 2007, R623-625.

Arwen · 08-21-2012, 08:11 AM

The whole binary color thing isn't that old, socially speaking. It only goes back to the late 19th/ early 20th century.

It used to be that we dressed our children in the same type outfit until they were a certain age.

And we didn't judge a child's sex by the color of the clothing. Shocking, I know.

Here's an interesting article on this subject from the Smithsonian.

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