The Loft: Butches and Femmes in their 40s, 50s and over.

[Isadora]

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

but hey, you're visible here, heh

[Isadora]

Originally Posted by Ol' Jet

but hey, you're visible here, heh

wooo hoooooooo

[Rockinonahigh]

Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

Isadora,u and all the other femmes are definatly visable hear.But u have brought up a valid point cause this feeling of in visablity to our own home community happeneds to many older butches as well as femms.

[Jet]

i'm not invisible in the least nor do i feel as such, i'm happy to say.

[Soft*Silver]

I wonder where all the silver back butches are...maybe they are not inclined to come out and challenge the youth oriented BF culture. I know that I have looked for 55 and older...and few are found...

Originally Posted by Rockinonahigh

Isadora,u and all the other femmes are definatly visable hear.But u have brought up a valid point cause this feeling of in visablity to our own home community happeneds to many older butches as well as femms.

[Liam]

Originally Posted by softness

I wonder where all the silver back butches are...maybe they are not inclined to come out and challenge the youth oriented BF culture. I know that I have looked for 55 and older...and few are found...

Well I'm not 55 yet, and its not silver, its white, and oh yes, I'm not a butch.

[Isadora]

Originally Posted by Liam

Well I'm not 55 yet, and its not silver, its white, and oh yes, I'm not a butch.

*S* I am over 55, pushin 60, and a redhead and not a butch either. *giggle*

[Wryly]

What is this conference you guys are talking about???
Is it part of the reunion in Little Rock?

[Isadora]

Originally Posted by Wryly

What is this conference you guys are talking about???
Is it part of the reunion in Little Rock?

No, it is not part of the reunion...
The Femme Collective proudly announces:
FEMME2010: No Restrictions
August 20--22nd
Oakland Marriott City Center
Oakland, CA

[Soft*Silver]

I just want to add that Youngstown, Ohio has a great LGBT community, and while small, is very active. I have been out in all my jobs here. My mobile home park has other openly gay people living here. And we have all 4 seasons. While I would love a longer growing season (I am an avid gardener) I cant give up my fall and winter. Cleveland and Akron and Pittsburgh are a short drive away. And our housing is so cheap! I am buying a house for $10,000. Can you beat that where you live?

[ruthie14]

Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

Due to financial reasons I won't be able to go to the femme conference... but I find it disheartening to hear this. Maybe someone can start something before it is too late. Thanks for bringing this up Isa... we only get better as we age don't we! I am definately better at this age then any other!

[Soft*Silver]

Did you know I am working on a book about silver femmes and crone butches? I myself am a silver femme....I thought about offering a proposal on aging for that conference but I would never be able to pay for the fees, let alone the hotel....

I know that I have never felt prettier than I do now...and while people tell me that they love my silver hair, they themselves would NEVAH let their hair go grey. Age is such a taboo subject...

Originally Posted by Isadora

I am really horribly disappointed that the femme conference steering committee has no women of age. Looks like the face of older femmes is not part of their commitment to representing femmes. Older femmes are in visible even to other femmes.

[Martina]

i went back and looked at the committee. Maybe no one over 50, but some amazing women in that group. i won't be attending either though even though i live nearby. i am kind of tired of gender ID politics and culture. Not finding them personally liberating right now. But i was impressed with that group.

Re the book softness is writing, totally cool. i do not not not want another ID category in my life though, so will not be adopting the silver femme one.

[Isadora]

Originally Posted by Martina

i went back and looked at the committee. Maybe no one over 50, but some amazing women in that group. i won't be attending either though even though i live nearby. i am kind of tired of gender ID politics and culture. Not finding them personally liberating right now. But i was impressed with that group.

Re the book softness is writing, totally cool. i do not not not want another ID category in my life though, so will not be adopting the silver femme one.

I totally understand this...not much into it lately myself. I just find it interesting that probably no one is over 45. Amazing women do not make up for women over 50 being overlooked. I am not easily impressed anymore, just as women of color would not be impressed if they were ignored and left out, but that is me.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by softness

Did you know I am working on a book about silver femmes and crone butches?

Yes I remember, you asked to interview me for that book on the other site and I declined. I hope it's going well for you.