Who Should Have The Right To Marry?

Kent · 09-29-2012, 07:01 PM

I believe anyone in love should have the right to marry!!!

firegal · 09-29-2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent

I believe anyone in love should have the right to marry!!!

Well i think anyone should have the right....but if your in jail your in jail.Your freedom has been taken away....till your out!

you cant go on vacation,you cant drive a car....you are incarcerated.

You cant go to a church or facility to be married.

Hazards of going to prison/or jail.

When you have done the time...then you can excercise that right...and get married where every you want and also pay for it!

Kent · 09-30-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by firegal

Well i think anyone should have the right....but if your in jail your in jail.Your freedom has been taken away....till your out!

you cant go on vacation,you cant drive a car....you are incarcerated.

You cant go to a church or facility to be married.

Hazards of going to prison/or jail.

When you have done the time...then you can excercise that right...and get married where every you want and also pay for it!

Firegal,

My post did not reference anything about being in jail. Jail did not play into my question and/or answer.

However, I do agree with you.

thanks,

Kent

pajama · 09-30-2012, 02:05 PM

I would like to see something that allows anyone, of a consenting age, to marry as many people as they want, of any gender, identity, nationality, religion, color, etc.

ALONG WITH an ammendment to BAN divorce, with the exception of extreme cruelty or abuse. And cheating isn't extreme cruelty. You go to therapy, you work it out. If you love them enough to want to marry them, then you love them enough and forever to make it work! (Hence why I personally will not get married again. It's FOREVER.)

My $.02.

A

blush · 09-30-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pajara

I would like to see something that allows anyone, of a consenting age, to marry as many people as they want, of any gender, identity, nationality, religion, color, etc.

ALONG WITH an ammendment to BAN divorce, with the exception of extreme cruelty or abuse. And cheating isn't extreme cruelty. You go to therapy, you work it out. If you love them enough to want to marry them, then you love them enough and forever to make it work! (Hence why I personally will not get married again. It's FOREVER.)

My $.02.

A

Um, not for me. This is too black and white. Cheating can be extreme cruelty, and asking people to suck it up and stick it out comes with its own complications. It creates a situation where two potentially angry people are stuck with each other forever. More than marriage, people have a right to persue their happiness. Sometimes what they thought was their happiness changes. They shouldn't be sentenced to a lifetime of misery.

Having said that, I strongly feel marriage is a heartfelt, sincere commitment for a lifetime. I just don't like morality baggage that gets slung around if divorce is an option.

Ciaran · 10-06-2012, 09:36 AM

The issue of who should have the right to marry is an incredibly complex one.

I think that all, or almost all, of us on this site would support equal marriage rights for LGBT people as or hetrosexuals. However, our views on who should have the actual right to marry no doubt vary significantly depending on our cultural, political, societal and religious views.

For example, at what age should someone be allowed to marry? If a minor, should he / she be allowed to marry with parental consent? I'm not a parent and never will be but cannot believe that I would give my consent to a child of 16 or 17 to marry. Similarly, whilst it is legal, should society regulate to stop a person of 18 marrying someone of 88?

Also, how do we deal with persons who may be mentally incapacitated in some way but, equally, as deserving of love and a committed relationship as others?

Added to the above, there is the cultural overlay. For example, in many South Asian societies, the right to marry is held but not the right to choose your spouse. This would be more important than the right to marry for me as I can just imagine who my parents would set me up with !!

Also, of course, the added complexities of those already married and wanting to marry again, whether their current marriage remains in law or not. Certainly, as a Roman Catholic, leaving aside the whole LGBT obstacle, I would have to jump through significant hurdles to get married a second time in the event of divorce. Similarly, until relatively recently, many societies expected widows not to remarry in the event of their husband's death.

Apologies for my ramble .... just the initial thoughts that came into my head upon reading the opening post.

Tuff Stuff · 08-27-2015, 06:29 PM

Forced marriages are not cool,like underage girls/boys being forced to marry full ass grown men/women aganist their will.Abusers who end up marrying their victims,yuck!...and prison imates,you gave up any rights when you commited a horrible crime.
Marrying your blood relations sounds creepy also.

That's my opinion,of course.

My

*snort*

firegal · 09-30-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kent

Firegal,

My post did not reference anything about being in jail. Jail did not play into my question and/or answer.

However, I do agree with you.

thanks,

Kent

I just used your quote to show an exception to the word "everyone", wasn't nessasarily disagreeing with the "everyone" has the right concept...

Just voicing my exception to it. Sometimes folks get quoted to continue the conversation and branch off of what was stated. That's what I was doing...

Thanks for your words

Kent · 09-30-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by firegal

I just used your quote to show an exception to the word "everyone", wasn't nessasarily disagreeing with the "everyone" has the right concept...

Just voicing my exception to it. Sometimes folks get quoted to continue the conversation and branch off of what was stated. That's what I was doing...

Thanks for your words

You're very welcome, firegal.

Beloved · 09-30-2012, 04:36 PM

I'm not against polygamy between consenting adults but I think if it were to become legal there would be issues to be ironed out with social security. The benefits would need to be arranged between many people rather than just two. It's more complex than just 2 people getting married. It's not impossible to work something out...but it requires a lot of consideration.

Corkey · 09-30-2012, 04:59 PM

I think every human has the right to marry. I have some reservations around poly marriage, but those have to do with property rights and estate management for children. However, even poly folks should have the right to marry. I just think the right to marriage is a human right, not necessarily just for the procreation of children.

09-29-2012, 07:01 PM	#1
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Tuff Stuff Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Woman Preferred Pronoun?: She Relationship Status: Married Join Date: May 2013 Location: California Posts: 695 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 904 Thanked 1,315 Times in 505 Posts Rep Power: 9408454	Who should not marry... Forced marriages are not cool,like underage girls/boys being forced to marry full ass grown men/women aganist their will.Abusers who end up marrying their victims,yuck!...and prison imates,you gave up any rights when you commited a horrible crime. Marrying your blood relations sounds creepy also. That's my opinion,of course. My snort

09-30-2012, 04:59 PM	#11
Corkey Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Human Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Very Married Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Where I want to be Posts: 8,155 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 47,491 Thanked 29,270 Times in 6,637 Posts Rep Power: 21474859	I think every human has the right to marry. I have some reservations around poly marriage, but those have to do with property rights and estate management for children. However, even poly folks should have the right to marry. I just think the right to marriage is a human right, not necessarily just for the procreation of children. __________________ "Many proposals have been made to us to adopt your laws, your religion, your manners and your customs. We would be better pleased with beholding the good effects of these doctrines in your own practices, than with hearing you talk about them". ~Old Tassel, Chief of the Tsalagi (Cherokee)

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pajama Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Klingon Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Just South of Nashvegas Baby Posts: 3,115 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 7,546 Thanked 7,476 Times in 1,808 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I would like to see something that allows anyone, of a consenting age, to marry as many people as they want, of any gender, identity, nationality, religion, color, etc. ALONG WITH an ammendment to BAN divorce, with the exception of extreme cruelty or abuse. And cheating isn't extreme cruelty. You go to therapy, you work it out. If you love them enough to want to marry them, then you love them enough and forever to make it work! (Hence why I personally will not get married again. It's FOREVER.) My $.02. A

10-06-2012, 09:36 AM	#6
Ciaran Member How Do You Identify?: Altocalciphilic Preferred Pronoun?: Papa Smurf Relationship Status: Curmudgeonous spinster Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: London (but from Belfast) Posts: 678 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 471 Thanked 3,654 Times in 602 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	The issue of who should have the right to marry is an incredibly complex one. I think that all, or almost all, of us on this site would support equal marriage rights for LGBT people as or hetrosexuals. However, our views on who should have the actual right to marry no doubt vary significantly depending on our cultural, political, societal and religious views. For example, at what age should someone be allowed to marry? If a minor, should he / she be allowed to marry with parental consent? I'm not a parent and never will be but cannot believe that I would give my consent to a child of 16 or 17 to marry. Similarly, whilst it is legal, should society regulate to stop a person of 18 marrying someone of 88? Also, how do we deal with persons who may be mentally incapacitated in some way but, equally, as deserving of love and a committed relationship as others? Added to the above, there is the cultural overlay. For example, in many South Asian societies, the right to marry is held but not the right to choose your spouse. This would be more important than the right to marry for me as I can just imagine who my parents would set me up with !! Also, of course, the added complexities of those already married and wanting to marry again, whether their current marriage remains in law or not. Certainly, as a Roman Catholic, leaving aside the whole LGBT obstacle, I would have to jump through significant hurdles to get married a second time in the event of divorce. Similarly, until relatively recently, many societies expected widows not to remarry in the event of their husband's death. Apologies for my ramble .... just the initial thoughts that came into my head upon reading the opening post.

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Beloved Member How Do You Identify?: alive Preferred Pronoun?: um Relationship Status: married Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: on the stars Posts: 460 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,415 Thanked 1,653 Times in 298 Posts Rep Power: 19348703	I'm not against polygamy between consenting adults but I think if it were to become legal there would be issues to be ironed out with social security. The benefits would need to be arranged between many people rather than just two. It's more complex than just 2 people getting married. It's not impossible to work something out...but it requires a lot of consideration.