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Old 03-13-2010, 02:03 PM   #941
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call me old...call me old fashioned...but I just cant believe the crassness that is socially acceptable today. Its vulgar and the only virtue I see it holding for people who indulge in it, is shock value. And then I wonder why they need to create shock? Is it more about what they want from the rest of us than it is about what they want for themselves?

I just know i grew up in a generation where women werent allowed to wear pants to public school and boys wore nice shirts and pants with a tie when they took girls out. The t shirts and crazed fashions I see people wearing now makes me regret the invasion of rock and roll...for you see...I believe it was the demise of the american culture and the end of family values... :r ant:




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Softness, I don't think rock 'n roll created the downward spiral our society has been on for a while now. I sincerely doubt one single event led to where we are now.

I've actually compared music from a couple of decades ago to music now and the difference in crassness and general shock value is very apparent. Obviously, this isn't scientific and has a pretty high DUH! factor, but bear with me.

For example, the rock band Cinderella had a very popular song called "Shake Me." It was, of course, about sex. But nowhere in the lyrics does it call women a ho or bitch or talk about wanting to grab parts of their anatomy. See below:

All right yea
I met this girl around quarter to ten
We made it once she said "make me again"
She wrapped her love around me all night long
In the mornin' we were still goin' strong

Now let me tell ya it sure feels good
First time I saw that girl I knew it would
Now let me tell ya it sure felt right
No pullin' teeth she didn't want to fight she said

Shake me
All night
She said
Shake me
Shake it don't break it baby
Shake me
All night
She said
All night long
All night long baby

Screamed and scratched and rolled out of the bed
I never really got her out of my head
And now and then she makes those social calls
Gives me a squeeze gets me kickin' the walls

Now let me tell ya it still feels tight
And we were shakin' after every bite
I feel her comin' in the middle of the night
screamin' higher

Shake me
All night
She said
Shake me
Shake it don't break it baby
Shake me
All night
She said
Shake me
ooo yea

All night, keep the fire burnin' cause we're doin' all right
All night, come on and shake it right

Shake me
Shake me
Shake me
Shake me
Shake me
All night
She said
Shake me
Shake it don't break it baby
Shake me
All night
She said
Shake me
ooo yea

Shake me
Shake me
Shake me
Shake me
Shake me


Now take Eminem's song "Ass Like That" to compare it to. See below:

The way you shake it, I can't believe it
I ain't never seen an ass like that
The way you move it, you make my pee pee go
Doing, doing, doing

I don't believe it, it's almost too good to be true
I ain't never seen an ass like that
The way you move it, you make my pee pee go
Doing, doing, doing

The way she moves she's like a belly dancer
She's shaking that ass to the new Nelly jams, I
Think someones at the door
But I don't think I'm gonna answer
Police saying freeze
Doing, doing, doing
What do you mean freeze?
Please, I'm a human being, I have needs
I'm not done, not till I'm finish peeing
I am not resisting arrest, I am agreeing Mr. Officer
I'm already on my knees
I can't get on the ground any further, it's impossible for me
And do not treat me like a murderer, I just like to pee, pee, pee
Yes, I make r&b, I sing song it go
Ring-a-chong, a-ching-chong-chong-chong-ching
Psych, I joke, I joke, I kidd, I kidd
If I offend I'm sorry, please, please forgive
For I am Triumph, the puppet dog, I am a mere puppet
I can get away with anything I sing, you will love it

[Chorus]

Jessica Simpson, looks oh so temptin'
Nick I ain't never seen an ass like that
Everytime I see that show on MTV my pee pee goes
Doing, doing, doing

Mary-Kate and Ashley used to be so wholesome
Now they're getting older, they're starting to grow bum bums
I go to the movies and sit down with my pop corn
Police saying freeze
Doing doing doing
What do you mean freeze?
Geez, I just got my seat
I have ticket, look I put away, my zipper's zipped
Please do not remove me from this movie theater please
I did not even get to see Mary-Kate shower scene
I didn't mean to be obscene or make a great big scene
And don't treat me like I'm pee wee herman, this movies PG
Mr. Officer, I demand to see my attorney
I will simply plead innocent, cop a plea and be free
Free, yes, free, right back on the streets
What you mean my lawyer's with Michael, he's too busy?
I am Triumph, Britney Spears has shoulders like a man
And I can say that and you'll laugh cuz that is a puppet on my hand

[Chorus]

Hilary Duff is not quite old enough so
I ain't never seen a butt like that
Maybe next year I'll say ass and she'll make my pee pee go
Doing, doing, doing

The way she moves she dances like a go-go
In that video she sings get out you bozo
I need a new boyfriend, hi my name is JoJo
Police saying freeze
Doing, doing, doing
What do you mean freeze?
My computers would be seized and my keys to my ranch
I just baked cookies Mr. Officer, looky, take a whiff of these
Here, I make Jesus juice, take a sip of this
Nobody is safe from me, no not even me
I don't even know if I can say the word pee pee, pee
On the radio, but I think I did
Janet, is that a breast, I think I just saw a tit
Psych, I joke, I joke, I kidd, I kidd
I don't think my joke is working, I must flee quick
Get to the chopper, everybody get out
I am not Triumph, I am Arnold, get down

[Chorus]

So Gwen Stefani, will you pee pee on me please?
I ain't never seen an ass like that
Cuz the way you move it, you make my pee pee go
Doing, doing, doing

What the Fuck is wrong with you? (ha!)


Both songs are sexually motivated, but what a difference makes from the late 80s...early 90s (I don't remember exactly when "Shake Me" came out) to the 2000s in how that is represented.

I'm not saying that things haven't gotten out of hand with music and that the shock value hasn't skyrocketed. I agree that both things are true. I just don't think that music is the sole culprit in our demise as a courteous and respectful society. I mean, has anyone SEEN reality TV nowadays?
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smacking my forehead...

call me old...call me old fashioned...but I just cant believe the crassness that is socially acceptable today. Its vulgar and the only virtue I see it holding for people who indulge in it, is shock value. And then I wonder why they need to create shock? Is it more about what they want from the rest of us than it is about what they want for themselves?

I just know i grew up in a generation where women werent allowed to wear pants to public school and boys wore nice shirts and pants with a tie when they took girls out. The t shirts and crazed fashions I see people wearing now makes me regret the invasion of rock and roll...for you see...I believe it was the demise of the american culture and the end of family values... :r ant:

But think of all the butches who were saved by being able to wear jeans. *grin*
Dresses on butches. Just not a pretty picture.

Randomness:
My dad and I put up a big vertical blind on the back sliding glass doors on my house today. My mom is so relieved. No more streaking past it on the way to the laundry room for me.
*grin*
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[QUOTE=Write14u;66384][COLOR="SeaGreen"]But think of all the butches who were saved by being able to wear jeans. *grin*
Dresses on butches. Just not a pretty picture.

Oh I am glad women were allowed to wear pants...trust me...I was tired of feeling the snow blow up my dress when I stood outside for the bus in January. I dont think we as a culture went downhill because we were allowed to wear pants. We lept from the Cliff of Saneness with the Beatles and the british invasion. As for butches wearing dresses..oh lord...I am SO glad that era is over! That would be like me packing a small boy in my panties...:::shivering..NO thank you anyways.. but you get my point...right?
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[COLOR="SeaGreen"]But think of all the butches who were saved by being able to wear jeans. *grin*
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Overall, I agree with you, however a butch wore a kilt at our Winter Ball here a couple of weeks ago and it looked great! Also, there was a butch from India in traditional formal Indian wear for men and again, fantastic! Both certainly were butch!
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Overall, I agree with you, however a butch wore a kilt at our Winter Ball here a couple of weeks ago and it looked great! Also, there was a butch from India in traditional formal Indian wear for men and again, fantastic! Both certainly were butch!
OOOOOOO? I wanna see!!!
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What downward spiral?


I've never really understand the argument that society is worse off than it used to be.

I'm a lot less concerned about some kids wearing crass t-shirts than I would have been during the time when there was segregation and it was socially acceptable to use racist language.
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I've never really understand the argument that society is worse off than it used to be.

I'm a lot less concerned about some kids wearing crass t-shirts than I would have been during the time when there was segregation and it was socially acceptable to use racist language.

I think some of the concerns and issues are different, but yes, I think it's worse than it was. Back in the day, parents felt safe in the knowledge that neighbors and friends would look out for their kids and let them play from daylight to dark all over the neighborhood. Now? How far do parents let their children get before panic sets in? There's a reason for that.

The tee shirts don't bother me very much. As to the racist language, it's still being used. Blatantly. Proudly. In many areas. Whether it's deemed socially acceptable doesn't mean a hill 'o beans to those that use it.

People had more respect for one another then, in their own social circles specifically. Manners were taught. Parents didn't have to worry about kids hearing vulgar language on the streets or radio as much as they do now. As far as we have come, I think some steps have been taken backwards.
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Overall, I agree with you, however a butch wore a kilt at our Winter Ball here a couple of weeks ago and it looked great! Also, there was a butch from India in traditional formal Indian wear for men and again, fantastic! Both certainly were butch!
I think those are both pretty awesome. And I'd have no problem whatsoever wearing a kilt. I'd do it! I'm just glad it's no longer a case of butches having to fit what society deems ALL women must wear. I love the individuality for women all along the spectrum, for butches and femmes and anyone else.

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[COLOR="SeaGreen"]But think of all the butches who were saved by being able to wear jeans. *grin*
Dresses on butches. Just not a pretty picture.

Oh I am glad women were allowed to wear pants...trust me...I was tired of feeling the snow blow up my dress when I stood outside for the bus in January. I dont think we as a culture went downhill because we were allowed to wear pants. We lept from the Cliff of Saneness with the Beatles and the british invasion. As for butches wearing dresses..oh lord...I am SO glad that era is over! That would be like me packing a small boy in my panties...:::shivering..NO thank you anyways.. but you get my point...right?
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I've never really understand the argument that society is worse off than it used to be.

I'm a lot less concerned about some kids wearing crass t-shirts than I would have been during the time when there was segregation and it was socially acceptable to use racist language.
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I think some of the concerns and issues are different, but yes, I think it's worse than it was. Back in the day, parents felt safe in the knowledge that neighbors and friends would look out for their kids and let them play from daylight to dark all over the neighborhood. Now? How far do parents let their children get before panic sets in? There's a reason for that.

The tee shirts don't bother me very much. As to the racist language, it's still being used. Blatantly. Proudly. In many areas. Whether it's deemed socially acceptable doesn't mean a hill 'o beans to those that use it.

People had more respect for one another then, in their own social circles specifically. Manners were taught. Parents didn't have to worry about kids hearing vulgar language on the streets or radio as much as they do now. As far as we have come, I think some steps have been taken backwards.
A trade-off, no?
I think some things have gone downhill, particularly as there have been more two-parent working homes and lesss time spent with kids. And I'll even throw in the unbelievable spoiling of kids and the way few seem to have a solid work ethic.

There are a lot of things that are better these days.

But mostly, everything still needs work.
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The tee shirts don't bother me very much. As to the racist language, it's still being used. Blatantly. Proudly. In many areas. Whether it's deemed socially acceptable doesn't mean a hill 'o beans to those that use it.

I became sensitive to what is on tshirts when i was raising my child. People out and about would wear the crassist sayings..or worse...pictures on their Ts. And there I was with a super inquisitive kid who took every detail in of the world...and wanted to know what it meant...or why they said that. And of course my child did not have alot of filters (she gets it honestly. Her momma is outspoken too) and sometimes she would stomp her little femme foot and shout out "thats WRONG!" or something there of. I can laugh about it now, but I think about the other kids who saw those shirts and had no one around to explain cultural values. And it gets me too, that we put some stuff on kids shirts...I have seen little girls wearing some things that made me stop dead in my tracks and stare at the impossible...in my world, no one would let a 8 year old wear something about partying down...

oh well..I am old and wicked in my sensibilities. To each his or her own...
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A trade-off, no?
I think some things have gone downhill, particularly as there have been more two-parent working homes and lesss time spent with kids. And I'll even throw in the unbelievable spoiling of kids and the way few seem to have a solid work ethic.

There are a lot of things that are better these days.

But mostly, everything still needs work.
Work, yes. I absolutely agree with that.

I won't get into the spoiling of children nowadays because it rubs me raw in all the wrong places. People let 5 year olds run around at night around these parts. Disgusting.
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Interesting how my T shirt statement went off into all these areas!

Concerning crass things on T's .... I don't like it. Why people think they can walk around with something that could be offensive to others is just another example of how narcissistic and rude our society has become. People don't seem to realize there are other people in the world! Manners don't seem to be very important any longer. Frankly, I don't really care to listen to someone using foul language all of the time. It's more about respect for others, commom courtesy..... than anything else.

Parents seem to have forgotten that its OK to say No to their kids! Or, that being a parent is a friendship. It isn't.

Of course I would have more of a problem with racist, sexist, etc. sayings on T's.....
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Screwed up my back today.. Praying it's not anything I need a Dr. for since I have no insurance.
Was supposed to start a painting job tomorrow.
How the hell am I gonna pay off my Jeep with no job?
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