The BFP Compound: Family Land

Daywalker · 10-05-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BstlMyhart

I've actually thought of this myself. The "compound" would be in the mountains of Ruidoso, NM though lol And everyone would have their own space...house/cottage...with 1 large building for gatherings. Figured a couple of hundred acres in the mountains would do the trick.

I do not think the NM would be Daywalker friendly.

Mountains in the California, very DW Friendly.

Electrocell · 10-06-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Daywalker

I do not think the NM would be Daywalker friendly.

Mountains in the California, very DW Friendly.

Sure you could just would have to grow them underground lol.

Syr · 10-06-2012, 06:41 AM

Sounds great. But not in the U.S. for me. I'll be staying right here 'til the end

StrongButch · 10-06-2012, 07:03 AM

Looks at Duchess I have a compound right outside of Atlanta maybe you can practice here (lol) Come show me your skills (sew,clean,lingerie parties and martinis) and whatever else you wanna throw in. (lol)

*Anya* · 10-06-2012, 08:29 AM

Reading this thread prompted me to think about the reality of a large group of people of different ages living together. I first posted in this thread, October 2011 and must admit my thoughts are a little different, a year later (and a year older).

On the face of it, it is a wonderful idea and hopefully, not just a pipe dream.

We are a diverse group of people, of not only identities but culture, backgrounds, education, employment and physical abilities (not to mention personalities!)

Currently, we do have a lot of Planet folks with physical disabilities (and perhaps also emotional). To make a dream of communal living a reality, all of these issues would need to be considered.

Boomers never think we will age. I didn't. In my mind, I would always be 25. Somehow, that did not happen! I like what one of the articles below called it: the Peter Pan Syndrome!

Would we have levels of care to try to keep aging LGBTQ folks living independently as long as possible?

Would we ensure that all environments would accommodate those that use canes/wheelchairs and other adaptive devices?

We will continue to age, whether we want to or not or regardless if we like it or not!

Darn it!

Some facts on costs, which may be even higher than when the Healthsense white paper was written:

30 million seniors living independently in their homes: Cost effective

11,000 attending or receiving
Adult Day/Home Health Care: 20K per year

21,000 in Independent Living Facilities Facilities: 20K to 30K per year

2,240 in Continuing Care Retirement Communities (CCRC’s)
$32K/year

33,000 in Assisted Living facilities
30K per year

17,000 in Skilled Nursing/Memory Care Facilities
$74K/year

1. Seniors’ Desire: Live as independently as possible for as long as possible
2. Cost effective alternatives to expensive SNF’s

"According to a new survey from the Hartford and the MIT AgeLab, half of boomers plan to stay in their current home as they age; however most have not made a plan to make their home more usable as physical abilities change.

The Hartford survey revealed that as far as adults ages 46-65, are concerned, 77% have talked to their spouse or partner about future housing needs but only 29% have made a plan, and 96% of those surveyed were aware of changes they could make to their current home to make it more livable as they age, but only 26% have made such changes.

That suggests too many of us are living in what some experts have dubbed Peter Pan housing - homes designed for people who will never get old.

I’m the first to admit that baby boomers actually don’t think we will get old."

http://www.healthsense.com/phocadown...ate/hs_aip.pdf

http://www.purdue.edu/retirees/docs/SeniorLiving.pdf

http://www.retiredbrains.com/Home/Se...e/default.aspx

Duchess · 10-06-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StrongButch

Looks at Duchess I have a compound right outside of Atlanta maybe you can practice here (lol) Come show me your skills (sew,clean,lingerie parties and martinis) and whatever else you wanna throw in. (lol)

Ummm, ok!!!

girl_dee · 10-06-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Syr

Sounds great. But not in the U.S. for me. I'll be staying right here 'til the end

Maybe everyone could come live HERE Syr!!! i bet you love that idea...

Syr · 10-06-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajun_dee

Maybe everyone could come live HERE Syr!!! i bet you love that idea...

Ummmmm...... Sure....would take a lil planning I think.

Sachita · 10-06-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Syr

Ummmmm...... Sure....would take a lil planning I think.

when I sell the farm and semi-retire to write my book I'd like to come park my RV summers up by you guys but once that cold starts up I'm history! lol

Just make sure all the people that want to come also know they have to work at stewarding the land. Few people know whats really involved in taking care of rural property especially as you move closer towards sustainability. As you know its a day to day that has to be done no matter how sick or tired you are.

DanieClarke · 10-07-2012, 09:03 AM

Hey i use to live in a RV and it was hell. I am glad to have finally purchased my own little farm.

Anyway i have a small 6 acre farm surrounded by mostly large amish and mennonite farms in central Pa along the appalchia Mountains.

I am seeking someone who is rough and ready and able to live rustically.

That means i have chamber pots and outhouses and barns and no indoor plumbing except for a hand pump in the basement which pumps springwater yr round.

I think an older FTM might really enjoy sharing this place with me.. Oh yea i am in my late 50's and caregiving my 89 yr old mom here. They too should be older and respectful of the local amish and mennonites.

I happen to be a celibate and single for the last 14 yrs so i am hoping to find the same.

Oh i can't deal with a couple as that dynamic is too much for me and mom.

Right now we sleep in the livingroom as mom can't make it up the steps and the wood heater in the livingroom needs to be filled every few hours all winter long.

Oh i am a 14 yr post op MTF living mostly androgynously as most who don't know me think i am a FTM which suits me fine..

PS: No smokers or drugs or lazy people

10-06-2012, 07:03 AM	#4
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10-06-2012, 08:29 AM	#5
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DanieClarke Timed Out How Do You Identify?: 14 yrs post op Preferred Pronoun?: Hey you Relationship Status: single Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: central pa Posts: 35 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 5 Thanked 53 Times in 23 Posts Rep Power: 0	Don't sell the farm LOL Hey i use to live in a RV and it was hell. I am glad to have finally purchased my own little farm. Anyway i have a small 6 acre farm surrounded by mostly large amish and mennonite farms in central Pa along the appalchia Mountains. I am seeking someone who is rough and ready and able to live rustically. That means i have chamber pots and outhouses and barns and no indoor plumbing except for a hand pump in the basement which pumps springwater yr round. I think an older FTM might really enjoy sharing this place with me.. Oh yea i am in my late 50's and caregiving my 89 yr old mom here. They too should be older and respectful of the local amish and mennonites. I happen to be a celibate and single for the last 14 yrs so i am hoping to find the same. Oh i can't deal with a couple as that dynamic is too much for me and mom. Right now we sleep in the livingroom as mom can't make it up the steps and the wood heater in the livingroom needs to be filled every few hours all winter long. Oh i am a 14 yr post op MTF living mostly androgynously as most who don't know me think i am a FTM which suits me fine.. PS: No smokers or drugs or lazy people Last edited by nycfem; 10-08-2012 at 07:53 AM.

10-06-2012, 06:41 AM	#3
Syr Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Preferred Pronoun?: Syr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern Ontario, Canada Posts: 241 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 381 Thanked 1,130 Times in 217 Posts Rep Power: 13416617	Sounds great. But not in the U.S. for me. I'll be staying right here 'til the end