June Cleaver : Femme Friend or Femme Foe

pinkgeek · 11-03-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by easygoingfemme

Omg yes please spill who it is you know! We won't harass you for introductions, promise! (my fingers just might be oh so slightly crossed behind my back)

What I neglected to articulate in my post (hence mentioning that I was criticizing an author hy has a friendship with) was that it took hym basically saying "Hey wait, slow your roll....<insert personal stories here>" when I said I wished the author was more overtly queer in her writing.

I learn and have my most profound "aha" moments through personal stories and interaction. Those interactions can happen online, over the phone or in person.

Thanks for the awesome dialogue everyone and Snow for starting it all off..

princesskathie · 11-07-2012, 09:31 AM

I'm jumping into this thread way way late, but I want to chime in on the original June Cleaver question.

I don't feel any sort of femme connection with Junie at all. She was unendingly dull because the only role she had was to facilitate the happenings in other people's lives. My memory may be blurry, but I don't recollect June ever doing anything interesting EVER. I mean, really, even Barbie went to the moon and became a veterinarian.

Plus June dressed EXACTLY like every single other girl on the block, and my flavor of femminess expresses itself through the way I doll up. I'm a girlygirl, but I certainly don't want to dress in standard girlygirl uniform.

I respect the value of taking care of others that June embodied, but we can certainly take good care of our loved ones while being vibrant femmes in our own right.

Sarafemme · 11-30-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by princesskathie

I'm jumping into this thread way way late, but I want to chime in on the original June Cleaver question.

I don't feel any sort of femme connection with Junie at all. She was unendingly dull because the only role she had was to facilitate the happenings in other people's lives. My memory may be blurry, but I don't recollect June ever doing anything interesting EVER. I mean, really, even Barbie went to the moon and became a veterinarian.

Plus June dressed EXACTLY like every single other girl on the block, and my flavor of femminess expresses itself through the way I doll up. I'm a girlygirl, but I certainly don't want to dress in standard girlygirl uniform.

I respect the value of taking care of others that June embodied, but we can certainly take good care of our loved ones while being vibrant femmes in our own right.

I completely agree with PrincessKathie re: June Cleaver. I was born in the mid-70s so I don't remember seeing the show until I was an adult (and then in re-runs, obviously). I can see an attraction to the idea of 'playing' a 1950s-housewife role for kink reasons (but I'd certainly embody something more exciting than June Cleaver). I tend to like those greeting cards you see with the vintage housewife pictures on them and some subversive thought in a bubble above them (the whole notion of 'What were they /really/ thinking?) LOL.

girl_dee · 01-17-2018, 06:14 AM

This was one of the best threads on the site. i’ve enjoyed re-reading it.

~ocean · 01-17-2018, 06:39 AM

I've been referred to by STRAIGHT woman as June Clever ~ maybe to them I seemed that way ~ wasn't about the way I dressed cause I dressed very different ~ it was because I tended to my family and they along w/ my wife came first in my life and priority ~ The woman that did the June Clever reference were also drinking drug abusing mothers who had a lot to be ashamed of. I always took it where it came from. Aside from the 50's garb June wore the fact she cared for her family & children was always respectful way of looking at a parent.

girl_dee · 01-17-2018, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ~ocean

I've been referred to by STRAIGHT woman as June Clever ~ maybe to them I seemed that way ~ wasn't about the way I dressed cause I dressed very different ~ it was because I tended to my family and they along w/ my wife came first in my life and priority ~ The woman that did the June Clever reference were also drinking drug abusing mothers who had a lot to be ashamed of. I always took it where it came from. Aside from the 50's garb June wore the fact she cared for her family & children was always respectful way of looking at a parent.

did it piss you the hell OFF being referred to as a straight woman?

Why can’t femme be a gender in the real world! ?

~ocean · 01-17-2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by girl_dee

did it piss you the hell OFF being referred to as a straight woman?

Why can’t femme be a gender in the real world! ?

Dee you know if you don't look butch your always perceived as a straight woman lol ~ BUT I had a rainbow bumper sticker, a gay woman's decal on my car window , my key chain had a rainbow flag that was very obvious. , I wore a pink garnet triangle pinky ring, a Proviencetown bumper sticker on the back window, I seriously think people r blinded by a woman's looks.

11-07-2012, 09:31 AM	#2
princesskathie Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Sparkle Femme Preferred Pronoun?: she, babydoll, cutiepie, and angelpop all work just fine! Relationship Status: All kinds of twitterpated! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 29 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 86 Thanked 99 Times in 25 Posts Rep Power: 662888	I'm jumping into this thread way way late, but I want to chime in on the original June Cleaver question. I don't feel any sort of femme connection with Junie at all. She was unendingly dull because the only role she had was to facilitate the happenings in other people's lives. My memory may be blurry, but I don't recollect June ever doing anything interesting EVER. I mean, really, even Barbie went to the moon and became a veterinarian. Plus June dressed EXACTLY like every single other girl on the block, and my flavor of femminess expresses itself through the way I doll up. I'm a girlygirl, but I certainly don't want to dress in standard girlygirl uniform. I respect the value of taking care of others that June embodied, but we can certainly take good care of our loved ones while being vibrant femmes in our own right. __________________ Princess Kathie Why try to fit in when you were born to stand out? If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve to have me at my best.

01-17-2018, 06:39 AM	#5
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01-17-2018, 06:14 AM	#4
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