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Old 11-04-2012, 03:57 PM   #1
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the key states to win :

PA and OH
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...just finished reading some encouraging articles on HP--dare I get my hopes up?
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the key states to win :

PA and OH
I thought it was Florida and Ohio?
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It is Fl and OH, PA is not in play, Robme just want to pull a fake out. And PA is the only market not yet flooded with ads. We're kinda sick of his pandering.
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It is Fl and OH, PA is not in play, Robme just want to pull a fake out. And PA is the only market not yet flooded with ads. We're kinda sick of his pandering.
Thanks Corkey! That caught my eye because I had just read about FL and OH this morning. Thought perhaps I missed something.
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The first thing I will watch for is Virginia. Polls close at 7 pm EST. If Obama wins VA he can win without either OH or FL. Obama seems to have a small lead in the polls in VA. If he won VA, he would also need Wisconsin, Nevada and Iowa or NH- very doable. That is of course assuming he still gets PA, MI and MN and other expected blue states which shouldn't be a problem.

I think Obama will win OH. I hope he wins FL as a victory for democracy, but he can win without it. Salute to all the voters waiting in long lines to vote and standing up against voter suppression efforts in FL, Ohio and elsewhere.

Obama can still definitely win without VA, but if he does it could avoid everything hinging on Ohio and FL where if it is very close it will get ugly with all the Republican shenanigans, counting of provisional ballots, and potential recounts and lawsuits. Then again there is a good chance Obama will win a clear if still close margin in Ohio and avoid all that.

I do think Obama is going to win but I'm still a nervous wreck!
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The first thing I will watch for is Virginia. Polls close at 7 pm EST. If Obama wins VA he can win without either OH or FL. Obama seems to have a small lead in the polls in VA. If he won VA, he would also need Wisconsin, Nevada and Iowa or NH- very doable. That is of course assuming he still gets PA, MI and MN and other expected blue states which shouldn't be a problem.

I think Obama will win OH. I hope he wins FL as a victory for democracy, but he can win without it. Salute to all the voters waiting in long lines to vote and standing up against voter suppression efforts in FL, Ohio and elsewhere.

Obama can still definitely win without VA, but if he does it could avoid everything hinging on Ohio and FL where if it is very close it will get ugly with all the Republican shenanigans, counting of provisional ballots, and potential recounts and lawsuits. Then again there is a good chance Obama will win a clear if still close margin in Ohio and avoid all that.

I do think Obama is going to win but I'm still a nervous wreck!
Which chart did you get this from? The one on the fridge? The one taped up in the hall? The ones in the office?

I know this election is important. More important i think for me because this is the first one i know every single way it can possibly go, thanks to the wallpaper of charts, red and blue state drawings, population sizes and the bright purple electoral votes, the times the polls close in EVERY state...hung everywhere.

But. I will be glad when President Obama kicks A, it will be good to get on with his plan for our bright future as women and as a country....

AND i can have my markers back.

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Well, I just got back from my morning of errands:
first on the list was drop the ballot off downtown.

And let me tell you, things were all too quiet downtown.

I have to say, Bully, when I read your post just now about Romney, I can't help but think of the latest headline news were Apple paid less than 2% in taxes on their international accts. I'm all for taking down poorly written law pertaining to corporate law and tax law. But I take heart that faceless corporations are not really faceless. I can think of two perpetrators who sit side by side in my mind:

The Steve Jobs empire and the so-called empire of Romney.

Luke Skywalker, where are you???

What we need is the Empire of the People to strike back and send a very large, impossible to ignore, message that white-collar crime of this nature will not be tolerated any more. Period.
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Which chart did you get this from? The one on the fridge? The one taped up in the hall? The ones in the office?

I know this election is important. More important i think for me because this is the first one i know every single way it can possibly go, thanks to the wallpaper of charts, red and blue state drawings, population sizes and the bright purple electoral votes, the times the polls close in EVERY state...hung everywhere.

But. I will be glad when President Obama kicks A, it will be good to get on with his plan for our bright future as women and as a country....

AND i can have my markers back.



i would keep her markers, ... find her construction paper (she knows she has got some.) and glitter (she knows she has got some.), ... and tell her i had to make victory posters and confetti!

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The first thing I will watch for is Virginia. Polls close at 7 pm EST. If Obama wins VA he can win without either OH or FL. Obama seems to have a small lead in the polls in VA. If he won VA, he would also need Wisconsin, Nevada and Iowa or NH- very doable. That is of course assuming he still gets PA, MI and MN and other expected blue states which shouldn't be a problem.

I think Obama will win OH. I hope he wins FL as a victory for democracy, but he can win without it. Salute to all the voters waiting in long lines to vote and standing up against voter suppression efforts in FL, Ohio and elsewhere.

Obama can still definitely win without VA, but if he does it could avoid everything hinging on Ohio and FL where if it is very close it will get ugly with all the Republican shenanigans, counting of provisional ballots, and potential recounts and lawsuits. Then again there is a good chance Obama will win a clear if still close margin in Ohio and avoid all that.

I do think Obama is going to win but I'm still a nervous wreck!


Makes note to tune in to channel Bulldog tomorrow for up to date info on the ins and outs of the election returns. Is there an app to get text updates?
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