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Old 11-05-2012, 06:09 PM   #1
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I've been thinking about this a lot,
and I'm glad the question came up.


I wanted to say that with every label comes the dreaded stereotype.

Yet, if we do not have a way to differentiate with 'labels' things
get cloudy for some. I like to think of these categories
as 'descriptors' rather than labels.

Well the emerging generations of Studs, Ags, Aggressives, Machas
etc., also deal with being stereotyped within the Community.

Just like Butch folks, Femme folks and all under the rainbow folks have.

I have 2 links to share for thought

One is a U-TooB channel from StudzLife101.

http://www.youtube.com/user/StudzLife101?feature=watch


The other is this video...



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Default AS for the term "papi"

I've only heard papi referred to for male identified individuals, gay or straight. My girl actually calls me papi = daddy. I also know mostly latin people, male and female, use the term to call younger latin males. . and guys call other guys papi too. At least here in Fl where I am. I'm sure when they use that term "papi" it's not in reference to daddy but instead a male they believe is good looking. Hence the term "papi chulo"
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I've only heard papi referred to for male identified individuals, gay or straight. My girl actually calls me papi = daddy. I also know mostly latin people, male and female, use the term to call younger latin males. . and guys call other guys papi too. At least here in Fl where I am. I'm sure when they use that term "papi" it's not in reference to daddy but instead a male they believe is good looking. Hence the term "papi chulo"

On the other hand, I have a friend of 22 years who is Hispanic and
whose Femme calls her Papi and/or Poppi...her preferred pronoun is She.

So does not Identify as a male.

It's all relative...to me.





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Me too, when ruffryder mentioned only the cis male version of Papi I remember how lucky I was to have been around a diverse POC queer experience. I really urge folks to read/listen to Q-Roc's stuff it's very informative.

I wish more POC gender variant folks would come to BFP to share experiences and culture.
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Excellent post Mr. Day. I think of butch, femme, papi and other descriptors as you said as identities. A woman spoke at a conference we went to and she said labels are what others apply to you and identites are what you use to express yourself. I thought this was a great way of putting it. Are labels and identities the same thing? I don't think they are.



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I've been thinking about this a lot,
and I'm glad the question came up.


I wanted to say that with every label comes the dreaded stereotype.

Yet, if we do not have a way to differentiate with 'labels' things
get cloudy for some. I like to think of these categories
as 'descriptors' rather than labels.

Well the emerging generations of Studs, Ags, Aggressives, Machas
etc., also deal with being stereotyped within the Community.

Just like Butch folks, Femme folks and all under the rainbow folks have.

I have 2 links to share for thought

One is a U-TooB channel from StudzLife101.

http://www.youtube.com/user/StudzLife101?feature=watch


The other is this video...



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I've been thinking about this a lot,
and I'm glad the question came up.


I wanted to say that with every label comes the dreaded stereotype.

Yet, if we do not have a way to differentiate with 'labels' things
get cloudy for some. I like to think of these categories
as 'descriptors' rather than labels.

Well the emerging generations of Studs, Ags, Aggressives, Machas
etc., also deal with being stereotyped within the Community.

Just like Butch folks, Femme folks and all under the rainbow folks have.

I have 2 links to share for thought

One is a U-TooB channel from StudzLife101.

http://www.youtube.com/user/StudzLife101?feature=watch


The other is this video...



That was helpful, actually. Thank you. I think it's great this has turned into a real, diverse, cultural discussion.
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