Neurodiversity

[Andrew, Jr.]

Butterbean,

I disagree with your quote from Buddha. I know for me it doesn't fit. I was dropped on my head by my brother when I was a day old. There is nobody to blame, it was an accident, pure and simple.

I think pretty much most of us here are not responsible for their neurological disorders. They are inherited, or caused by disease, or an accident such as an in my case.

Peace,
Andrew

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Butterbean

"Every human being is the author of his own health or disease."

-Buddha

Do you think your tumor was your fault? I am a bit confused as to why you chose this quote?

[Liam]

Originally Posted by Butterbean

"Every human being is the author of his own health or disease."

-Buddha

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Butterbean,

I disagree with your quote from Buddha. I know for me it doesn't fit. I was dropped on my head by my brother when I was a day old. There is nobody to blame, it was an accident, pure and simple.

I think pretty much most of us here are not responsible for their neurological disorders. They are inherited, or caused by disease, or an accident such as an in my case.

Peace,
Andrew

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Do you think your tumor was your fault? I am a bit confused as to why you chose this quote?

I don't think this quote from Buddha is assigning blame at all, rather it is about what we do with our lives—how we choose to respond to what comes our way, whether it be illness, events that traumatize us, or our inherited genes. We do make choices; regardless of things we have no control over, there remain some, which we do. Despite the challenges we may have in life, we can write our own story.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Liam

I don't think this quote from Buddha is assigning blame at all, rather it is about what we do with our lives—how we choose to respond to what comes our way, whether it be illness, events that traumatize us, or our inherited genes. We do make choices; regardless of things we have no control over, there remain some, which we do. Despite the challenges we may have in life, we can write our own story.

I do not agree with that completely.

Yes, we can have a great attitude and we can live right and healthy but some things are out of our control.

My opinion.

[Liam]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

I do not agree with that completely.

Yes, we can have a great attitude and we can live right and healthy but some things are out of our control.

My opinion.

Well, I said there are somethings we have no control over.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Liam

Well, I said there are somethings we have no control over.

Cool! Then we agree

PS, I meant I do not agree entirely with Buddha, but agree with you that he was likely not trying to assign blame.

[Butterbean]

Exactly, Liam. Your explanation is so perfect, I'll leave it at that. Why meddle with perfection? LOL

Originally Posted by Liam

I don't think this quote from Buddha is assigning blame at all, rather it is about what we do with our lives—how we choose to respond to what comes our way, whether it be illness, events that traumatize us, or our inherited genes. We do make choices; regardless of things we have no control over, there remain some, which we do. Despite the challenges we may have in life, we can write our own story.

[Andrew, Jr.]

Everyone has their own story to tell, not just the sick. What about the poor, the needy, the wealthy, the independent, the dependent, and so on and on?

[Liam]

Originally Posted by Andrew, Jr.

Everyone has their own story to tell, not just the sick. What about the poor, the needy, the wealthy, the independent, the dependent, and so on and on?

Andrew, have you heard of the expression, "when life hands you lemons, make lemonade?" This quote Butterbean shared, is saying the same thing. It isn't leaving anyone out, because people are either healthy or not.

[Andrew, Jr.]

Hi Liam,

I have heard of that saying, but didn't know it was the = to Buddha's quote. Now, I am more confused than ever. My apology if what I stated came out wrong or confusing. That was not my intent.

Peace,
Andrew

[violaine]

'it's not what we're dealt, it's how we deal'.

[Andrew, Jr.]

Belle,

Thank you! As always, you are good with this for me.

ox,
Andrew

[Apocalipstic]

and, we don't have to agree to still like each other!

[Andrew, Jr.]

I always, forever, and a day tangle up words in sentences. It is just how it is with me. Like salt on chips.

[Apocalipstic]

It especially happens when I speak aloud. My words can get all jumbled, or I pause to not stutter and people think I don't know words.

Ehhhhhhh....

But hey, its SPRING!

[Andrew, Jr.]

Yes it is.

[Apocalipstic]

I find it worth noting how differently we all process things even though we are all on the spectrum.

Like for me, I process historical details like Buddha lived around 2600 years ago, was allegedly the son of royalty and left his family for monastic life after seeing how things were outside his sheltered existence. People back then knew nothing of germs, viruses (or virii...I ponder this too. lol) then I am on to DNA. From DNA I jump to how easy it is to make pronouncements like say the Dalai Llama does...about giving up all expectations to be happy, when you are hanging out at the Ritz Carlton with Richard Gere and all of your needs are taken care of...so you have no day to day stress other than wanting to get back to Tibet, where you have really never lived....and on and on I spin...

When really, all that is meant is do your best with what you have.

I am sooo too literal. with myself.

[violaine]

jen,

for me it's usually 'patterns and connections' processing. i can do what you are describing as well, and tend to learn [from previous experiences] by patterns and connections. maybe lots of people process like that- but it might not be as rigid as it could possibly be for some aspies?

i met with some friends last evening, and we were watching film. there was someone crying in a scene, and i asked why he [the character] was so upset? one of my friends said it was because the character had to do something very unpleasant, and he did not wish to carry out the act.

well, i watched and waited for a few moments for the 'unpleasant act' to appear, and when it did not happen, i really felt convinced that i'd missed something kind of big. my friend looked over and said to me, 'oh, it hasn't happened yet!

working for a tree committee years ago, i was driving the little truck and the founder was passenger. he said to me, 'you will need to turn ... ' and i guess he had a spot picked out in his line of sight [some sort of invisible unspoken indicator?] but i didn't know what he meant, so i turned the wheel immediately.

afterwards, he commented to me- 'i know now how this [aspergers] works.

ha.

i think for me sometimes, the time frame is different than NT's- i feel like i am in the moment right then of the crying scene or the turn, et c.

hope this is helpful and makes sense!

ox

[Apocalipstic]

Belle, that totally makes sense, I have almost driven into someones yard that way.

And yes, I base my behaviours on previous similar situations. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Or, I wayyyyyy over think.

On another note, Saturday I met your 9 year old Aspie friend. GRIN. We talked about books and reading. What a beautiful girl. She reminded me of me at that age in thought.

[violaine]

well, then she is ever so lucky to have made your acquiantance, sweet jen

i adore her, and cannot wait to see her again [her mom too!]

what does your week look like? things are fairly quiet here with the animal control, humane society, and the committee work. sometimes, i check the phone to see if it's still working. other times, it rings like mad.

love to you!

liam, where are you? do you want to fly a kite later this afternoon? just come over!

belle
ox