Vape-heads? Do You Vape?

[Strappie]

Forgive me if anyone posted about this already. I haven't read all pages here.

I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with "Dry Mouth?" I have been vaping for about a yr and half and I have major problems with dry mouth. I've researched it and only find that if people get this, it only lasts about 2 weeks. For me, it's so bad that I can not create any saliva to the point I have a lisp. I have spoke to my local store and they have only heard of this from one other person. For her she knew she was alergic to the propylene glycol and takes that chance for cigarette free life. I haven't spoken to my Doctor yet, that's coming. I also know it's used in toothpaste which would explain why (I think) my mouth is dry after I brush.

I also know when Vaping you are to drink a lot of water! This hasn't helped me with the "Dry Mouth" it has almost made it worse.

I guess what I'm asking is if anyone else has had this issue? It sucks because I went for 4 months without smoking (one wknd I had 4 cigs) but couldn't take the dry mouth any longer.

Does anyone use Liquids with out the Propylene glycol in their liquids. If so where do you get them and can you shoot me the site you get them from.

[Strappie]

Spritzer...

Thank you for the heads up however the product you get from that place has Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). Same as mine. Thank you for trying!!

[spritzerJ]

Originally Posted by Strappie

Spritzer...

Thank you for the heads up however the product you get from that place has Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). Same as mine. Thank you for trying!!

http://www.ecblendflavors.com/all-na...rganic-100-vg/

Well I sure hope not. I am really trying to just use the VG base! Have you heard otherwise?

Oh and Loren_Q recommends the extra flavoring with the all VG flavors. And I will do that as they are pretty darn mild.

Thanks Strappie!

[Strappie]

Originally Posted by spritzerJ

http://www.ecblendflavors.com/all-na...rganic-100-vg/

Well I sure hope not. I am really trying to just use the VG base! Have you heard otherwise?

Oh and Loren_Q recommends the extra flavoring with the all VG flavors. And I will do that as they are pretty darn mild.

Thanks Strappie!

Perhaps I read it wrong.. I'll go back and check.. My bottle has both listed Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). So I'm guessing your would to? Maybe I just assumed?... I'll go look.

[spritzerJ]

Originally Posted by Strappie

Perhaps I read it wrong.. I'll go back and check.. My bottle has both listed Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). So I'm guessing your would to? Maybe I just assumed?... I'll go look.

It is a specific type of juice you need to order. Not all the flavors are 100% VG.

Happy to help out!

[Strappie]

Originally Posted by spritzerJ

It is a specific type of juice you need to order. Not all the flavors are 100% VG.

Happy to help out!

Yep... Of Course right when I seen on that page that it listed both.. I thought it was exactly like mine... once you wrote that you only use VG.. I went back and looked at the site again... Sorry about that Spritzer!! Thank you for the site!!

[spritzerJ]

Originally Posted by Strappie

Yep... Of Course right when I seen on that page that it listed both.. I thought it was exactly like mine... once you wrote that you only use VG.. I went back and looked at the site again... Sorry about that Spritzer!! Thank you for the site!!

You are very welcome Strappie! I am grateful to the help and hints you've offered so far on the thread. I hope you find a juice that doesn't dry mouth you to high heaven and tastes yummy.

I did not know my water intake would need to be adjusted. I am going to up it asap. No need to get dehydrated.

[Strappie]

Originally Posted by spritzerJ

http://www.ecblendflavors.com/all-na...rganic-100-vg/

Well I sure hope not. I am really trying to just use the VG base! Have you heard otherwise?

Oh and Loren_Q recommends the extra flavoring with the all VG flavors. And I will do that as they are pretty darn mild.

Thanks Strappie!

As I read further... I seen that you can Choose if you want Propylene Glyocol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerin (VG).

I first read it as... they use Propylene Glyocol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG). for their product.

I stand corrected... Thank you!!

[wolfsgirl]

Originally Posted by Strappie

Forgive me if anyone posted about this already. I haven't read all pages here.

I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with "Dry Mouth?" I have been vaping for about a yr and half and I have major problems with dry mouth. I've researched it and only find that if people get this, it only lasts about 2 weeks. For me, it's so bad that I can not create any saliva to the point I have a lisp. I have spoke to my local store and they have only heard of this from one other person. For her she knew she was alergic to the propylene glycol and takes that chance for cigarette free life. I haven't spoken to my Doctor yet, that's coming. I also know it's used in toothpaste which would explain why (I think) my mouth is dry after I brush.

I also know when Vaping you are to drink a lot of water! This hasn't helped me with the "Dry Mouth" it has almost made it worse.

I guess what I'm asking is if anyone else has had this issue? It sucks because I went for 4 months without smoking (one wknd I had 4 cigs) but couldn't take the dry mouth any longer.

Does anyone use Liquids with out the Propylene glycol in their liquids. If so where do you get them and can you shoot me the site you get them from.

You could have a PG allergy. Try a vg only liquid. There are many people with the same or worse PG allergies. Deejstuff has VG only liquid. He's the only mixologist I use now.

[Hollylane]

Following Medusa's post, I started browsing Heathers Heavenly Vapes.

Here's what is on the way:


1 ea. E-Liquid 3ml Sample 4 Pack-$10.00

Flavor #1 - Blueberry Muffin
Flavor #2 - Cinful Pear
Flavor #3 - Just Peachy
Flavor #4 - P Nut Butter Cookie


1 ea. Cin City $6.00: This is a spot on, right out of the oven cinnamon bun vape.

Nicotine Level - 18mg
Bottle Size - 6ml
PG/VG Ratio - 70/30


1 ea. Powder Keg $6.00: A powder keg of flavor combining dark chocolate, fresh coconut and roasted almonds.

Nicotine Level - 18mg
Bottle Size - 6ml
PG/VG Ratio - 70/30

I'll post what I think of the flavors after they arrive. I hope they come soon, I'm soooooo excited to try new ones!

I love the battery life on this thing, on a full charge, I have been using it constantly for 2 days now.

[Medusa]

It's a real deal!

It's called "vape mouth"!

I got it after about my second week because I started "mouth vaping" more and inhaling less (not that you can't get it from inhaling because you certainly can but mouth vaping seems to be a huge culprit.)

I am not allergic to the pg but it is an alcohol-based substance if I remember correctly so you will have drying agent in your mouth and even in small amounts can strip your tongue and mouth of the slick stuff.

* The higher the PG content, the more likely you'll get vape mouth.

* If you vape 100% VG, you have to be really careful about your clearomizers because that juice is a LOT thicker and will burn a clearomizer up quickly.

* Most places (except for super boutique stores) will let you pick what blend you want. There are some stores who sell their juices pre-mixed with what they consider to be the optimum blend for flavor.

* I always vape a 70/30 blend. Propylene Glycol is a much better flavor conductor than VG but VG produces more smoke so you will often have to adjust accordingly. I like the flavor and could care much less about the smoke, hence my 70/30 blend!

* Jackhammer ordered a juice that was pre-mixed at 50/50 and she had to draw pretty hard on her cartomizer to get any smoke. It smoked HUGE but she was annoyed with how hard the pull was with the thicker juice AND it burns up a lot faster.

* Drink tons of water! I've also found that chewing gum seems to help keep the mouth feeling more normal and less like a fur carpet!!!

If you DO get vape mouth, it will go away fairly quickly but it is definitely uncomfortable.

[Hollylane]

I have to mention, that currently, I am getting away with vaping, with some discreetness at my desk. I am certain that it is improving my stress level during difficult calls. I hope they either don't notice that I'm doing it, or ignore it. We do have quite a few 5 year old adults, who enjoy a good tattle, so unfortunately, it probably won't last.

A few people have mentioned that they really like the smell of blueberries that is around my desk.

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by Hollylane

I have to mention, that currently, I am getting away with vaping, with some discreetness at my desk. I am certain that it is improving my stress level during difficult calls. I hope they either don't notice that I'm doing it, or ignore it. We do have quite a few 5 year old adults, who enjoy a good tattle, so unfortunately, it probably won't last.

A few people have mentioned that they really like the smell of blueberries that is around my desk.

If you are worried about the smoke - Blow your vapor into a tissue or a handkerchief. It's super discreet

[Hollylane]

Originally Posted by Medusa

If you are worried about the smoke - Blow your vapor into a tissue or a handkerchief. It's super discreet

I do that, it really works! In a pinch, I blow it into my sleeve.

[PearlsNLace]

I don't smoke. However the idea of vaping cinnamon rolls and blueberry muffins sounds way better than noshing on high calorie bad tasting gluten free versions of these things.

Should vaping be reserved for tobacco and former tobacco smokers only?

[Strappie]

Originally Posted by Medusa

It's a real deal!

It's called "vape mouth"!

I got it after about my second week because I started "mouth vaping" more and inhaling less (not that you can't get it from inhaling because you certainly can but mouth vaping seems to be a huge culprit.)

I am not allergic to the pg but it is an alcohol-based substance if I remember correctly so you will have drying agent in your mouth and even in small amounts can strip your tongue and mouth of the slick stuff.

* The higher the PG content, the more likely you'll get vape mouth.

* If you vape 100% VG, you have to be really careful about your clearomizers because that juice is a LOT thicker and will burn a clearomizer up quickly.

From what I understand they do have "clearomizer's" on the marker to handle 100% VG

* Most places (except for super boutique stores) will let you pick what blend you want. There are some stores who sell their juices pre-mixed with what they consider to be the optimum blend for flavor.

My store is pre-mixed 50/50

* I always vape a 70/30 blend. Propylene Glycol is a much better flavor conductor than VG but VG produces more smoke so you will often have to adjust accordingly. I like the flavor and could care much less about the smoke, hence my 70/30 blend!

* Jackhammer ordered a juice that was pre-mixed at 50/50 and she had to draw pretty hard on her cartomizer to get any smoke. It smoked HUGE but she was annoyed with how hard the pull was with the thicker juice AND it burns up a lot faster.

I am a visual person, so I need to see it to feel like I'm getting anything.

* Drink tons of water! I've also found that chewing gum seems to help keep the mouth feeling more normal and less like a fur carpet!!!

Shitty thing is I was up to a milk jug of water a day.. and it never helped. I tried the gum, that made it worse. I even bought stuff at Wallgreen's for dry mouth (infact G was with me when I got it the first time)

If you DO get vape mouth, it will go away fairly quickly but it is definitely uncomfortable.

I had it so badly I had to stop... I lost all the taste of food and had a lisp. It wasn't fun. I stopped for 5 weeks and on the 6th week my taste started to come back. I went back to vaping, however not as much as I would like!

I'm hoping that changing my mixture will alleviate my troubles! If not I will talk to my Doctor and see what I can do

Medusa, thank you for all the research you have done!! It has already helped me!!

[Loren_Q]

Strappie,
It does sound like you are allergic to PG. Is there any way your store can make a 100% VG, since you're not planning on ordering on-line?

One of my co-workers does 100% VG, he uses a standard starlight clearomizer. What he does though is he dilutes it with distilled water. He pops the cap off the juice and drops it in with a clean eyedropper. Then closes the cap and "shakes it to hell and back".

I hope you find a way around vape-mouth, it's a shame if you can't.

[Strappie]

Originally Posted by Loren_Q

Strappie,
It does sound like you are allergic to PG. Is there any way your store can make a 100% VG, since you're not planning on ordering on-line?

One of my co-workers does 100% VG, he uses a standard starlight clearomizer. What he does though is he dilutes it with distilled water. He pops the cap off the juice and drops it in with a clean eyedropper. Then closes the cap and "shakes it to hell and back".

I hope you find a way around vape-mouth, it's a shame if you can't.

Yes, it's been a damn shame that I can't smoke it like I want to. I am however going to try the higher dose of VG if not the 100% VG rather than my stores 50/50.

[meridiantoo]

Originally Posted by Strappie

Forgive me if anyone posted about this already. I haven't read all pages here.

I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with "Dry Mouth?" I have been vaping for about a yr and half and I have major problems with dry mouth. I've researched it and only find that if people get this, it only lasts about 2 weeks. For me, it's so bad that I can not create any saliva to the point I have a lisp. I have spoke to my local store and they have only heard of this from one other person. For her she knew she was alergic to the propylene glycol and takes that chance for cigarette free life. I haven't spoken to my Doctor yet, that's coming. I also know it's used in toothpaste which would explain why (I think) my mouth is dry after I brush.

I also know when Vaping you are to drink a lot of water! This hasn't helped me with the "Dry Mouth" it has almost made it worse.

I guess what I'm asking is if anyone else has had this issue? It sucks because I went for 4 months without smoking (one wknd I had 4 cigs) but couldn't take the dry mouth any longer.

Does anyone use Liquids with out the Propylene glycol in their liquids. If so where do you get them and can you shoot me the site you get them from.

I am reading this thread closer and coming across posts to respond to...

I am still in the ordering process of my first starter kit, so I have no idea what the dry mouth thing is about, but I'm sure I will find out soon enough.

However, smoking dries my mouth out, so I have tried a dry-mouth mouthwash specifically to lubricate and it helps a lot. One that I use is by Biotene and it works really well. Just a thought.

[daisygirl]

Originally Posted by meridiantoo

Daisy,

Thank you so much for responding to me. I needed this information before I could confidently make my first purchase. I have concluded that I will need about 15 cartomizers and about 1 15ml. bottle of liquid to start. Does this sound about right? I am getting a manual e-cig with a usb charger/wall charger. Will this do, do you think?

I understand about your taste buds changing. I quit smoking for 2 years long ago and my taste buds totally changed. I loved it once they settled down and I got full taste back!

I really appreciate your help with all this. It's new to me and while I can read about it, nothing compares to hearing someone's personal advice and experience.

Meri

I'm glad i can help! You'll want more than one bottle of liquid. Try a few flavors. Each cartomizer can easily hold 1.2 ml of liquid so you'll find yourself needing more than 15ml. There are sites that sell decent inexpensive liquid. The Alice in Vapeland stuff is good - but it's expensive and in the beginning you should start with inexpensive so you can figure out what you like. Mt Baker Vapor is one place to get decent flavors and it's not expensive - i haven't ordered from them for a while but i liked what i got. There's one liquid i highly recommend and that's lily's liquid, sold by bamsbbq on nu-vapor (he takes orders through pm's and referrals) and he makes it all himself. He charges what is the *usual* standard of $.50/ml. When you start paying much more than that you're getting into the more gourmet flavors and in the beginning you'll want to try a bunch so it doesn't hurt to start with a non-gourmet juice maker.

15 cartos will last you a while, especially if you have a handful of flavors, you'll have some back-ups. A manual is the best choice, you get used to pushing the button really quick, it's just going to be a difference in how you inhale because you can't draw on it like you would a ciggie - but you'll figure that out too As long as you get the usb and wall chargers, you should be set to start!

I'm daisygirlie on nu-vapor and i chat there (video chat, then click text chat once you see the list, we're normally there in the evenings) if you want to come learn some stuff, we're all there to help and we love helping new people. Some people will even help with juice, etc. to help you get started so you don't have to pay a fortune for things

Originally Posted by meridiantoo

I am reading this thread closer and coming across posts to respond to...

I am still in the ordering process of my first starter kit, so I have no idea what the dry mouth thing is about, but I'm sure I will find out soon enough.

However, smoking dries my mouth out, so I have tried a dry-mouth mouthwash specifically to lubricate and it helps a lot. One that I use is by Biotene and it works really well. Just a thought.

I agree on the Biotene, i have it too. I started using it after i got my tonsils out 2 months ago (not a fun time for a grown up or a vaper, lol) and i found that it helps when i'm vaping high PG juices, because PG causes dry mouth. If you're having a lot of problems, i'd switch to a lower PG, higher VG or all VG juice. Hopefully Strappie will see this too

-daisy