Orange Is The New Black

[Queenie]

I LOVE this show! I am so glad there is a thread for it now. You need to watch it! It's odd, but in a really fab way. And its done by the person who did weeds. I love Piper. Cause I am a lot like, Piper. Oh in more ways then most of you are aware of. And I would so DO her her ex, Alex!

[Hollylane]

I'm totally bummed that I have finished the final episode of the season...I didn't think I would like this show, at all. But, I love it!

[candy_coated_bitch]

I LOVED this show. I feel like it just became so trendy to love it for a while that I didn't even WANT to like it, but I did. I am also so sad I watched the end of the first season.!!!! I am totally a binge watcher when it comes to TV shows, and at the end if I really like the show I almost feel lonely without the characters.

I feel like the series is clever, and funny, and crazy, and somehow real at the same time. I've never been to prison but I can see a lot of this kind of thing actually happening LOL. And I liked the treatment of different kinds of Queer issues in the show.

[Apocalipstic]

I watched the whole season in a week!

Parker, not dissing you about Big Boo, just amused that Butches seem to often not see each other. lmao.

[PinkieLee]

I watched the entire season in 3 days

For a day or so, someone had uploaded all the episodes to Youtube. Well, they got taken down. Of course I had to resort to signing up for Netflix's trial period and then canceled as soon as I finished!!

[Parker]

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic

I watched the whole season in a week!

Parker, not dissing you about Big Boo, just amused that Butches seem to often not see each other. lmao.

Oh, I know you and Dykea were just teasing.

For the record though, my not adding her to the poll had nothing to do with me not seeing her or not seeing her as a butch - Lea DeLaria being on the show was one of the first things I noted about it!

But she was a minor character (we didnt see her a ton and they didnt show us her back story) and I figured if I started adding minor characters to the show, I would have to add ALL the characters - and there were over 25 of them!

[ahk]

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic

I watched the whole season in a week!

Parker, not dissing you about Big Boo, just amused that Butches seem to often not see each other. lmao.

I was going to say -- we watched it in 3 days.
Feeling all studly-- and then PinkieLee says the same thing.

Originally Posted by PinkieLee

I watched the entire season in 3 days

For a day or so, someone had uploaded all the episodes to Youtube. Well, they got taken down. Of course I had to resort to signing up for Netflix's trial period and then canceled as soon as I finished!!

[Apocalipstic]

LMAO about Big Boo, minor character...grumble...Lol.

Ha, ank! You and Pinkie can both be OITNB studs!!

Love me some Netflix in general btw.

OK, so can we discuss favorite scenes, or is that spoilerish?

I think I'm about to watch it all again and memorize lines. Lol.

[Tangle]

Lol why do the poll results add up to 168+ %?

Being a nerd I guess-

[Parker]

Originally Posted by Tangle

Lol why do the poll results add up to 168+ %?

Being a nerd I guess-

I meant to answer this and forgot - it's because of the way I have the poll set up. People can vote for more than one character, so instead of the percentages adding up to 100%, which is how it would be if people could only vote once, we are seeing the % of the people voting in the poll who voted for that character.

If you'll notice, there are 40 voters (and 67 votes cast) - so for example, Crazy Eyes is at 50% because she has 20 votes, which is half of those 40 people who voted in the poll. Nicki is 10% because 4 out of the 40 people who voted, voted for her.

Does that make sense? In other polls, where you can only vote once (i.e., the veteran thread), the percentages would add up to 100%.

[TexasCowboi]

I'm waiting for Season 2......

[bright_arrow]

I love OITNB!!! Saw Alix and first was kinda "Ehh" because I could only see her in "That 70s Show" but then I was like "Okay.. Pretty hot for a femme [or however she would ID]!"

Piper, well, no. That's a whole big mess I wouldn't want any part in!

Nicki is pretty rawr! but, honestly? I think she would be too forward/agressive for me. *shrug*

Crazy Eyes is total crazy but it really struck a chord deep inside when she asked Piper why people call her Crazy Eyes. I totally wanted to hug her!

Big Boo? Psh, you know if you were her girl she'd totally take care of you [possibly in a controlling, slightly posessive and insanely jealous way..but still..] K, I might be kinda crushing on Big Boo! Must be the seemingly bad boi attitude she has going on.

Poussey [did I remember that correctly??] would just be a femme friend for me!

I could def see Red being my prison mother LOL She reminds me of my friend's German mother - brutally honest, but once she adopts you, you're in for life.

[Guy]

I find it entertaining that what was pulled out of my post earlier is "how pussy tastes", which had nothing to do with the core of my post. It is interesting that most of those who replied to my post and find it ok for the references made to be funny and acceptable, are also the same who were not so long ago in the Butch Cock and Old Fashion/Old School threads criticizing the butches for their ideas and discussion about the way they use, feel about, and embrace their butch cock. At that time, it was "horrible" and "dewomanizing" and "degrading towards women" ex: I love when a woman takes my butch cock in her mouth and sucks it. Yet, it is perfectly acceptable for the butches on this show to talk about women in this fashion and it is now considered comedy.

[Talon]

I did enjoy the first few episodes....although, it's a bit too tame for my taste.


Why can't they just create a female version of Oz?

[Bootboi]

Hahaha!!!! how did I guess where "Crazy Eyes" was ranked. Hard to pick a favorite on this series though. Crazy Eyes has "heart" I can tell

[Dykea]

Originally Posted by Talon

I did enjoy the first few episodes....although, it's a bit too tame for my taste.


Why can't they just create a female version of Oz?

Hey Talon
I'll be the FIRST to admit that I was a HUGE fan of OZ!! And seriously... a HUGE fan.

But OISTNB is based on the book... Orange Is the New Black: My Year in a Women's Prison
by Piper Kerman

It's based on the experiences of a woman being in prison and specifically a privileged white woman. She's awkward, stumbles, fuck ups CONSTANTLY and learns something about women of all different class, cultures, color, sexuality, abuse, history of drugs, mental health, physical health... the LIST goes on and on.

THAT'S FABULOUS!!!

There isn't one damn thing w/this many stories of making women visible anywhere else. The stories of each character that slowly pulls you in and has you ROOT for them individually is what makes you wonder who are we going to learn about NEXT???

So as MUCH as I loved OZ... the stories of women is much more fascinating and fun for me personally. And the show is damn funny. lol!

[Parker]

I'm still feeling guilty about not having Big Boo in the poll, so here is another interview with Lea DeLaria where she is talking about the show, how people are recognizing her now, the infamous screwdriver, whether or not Natasha Lyonne is gay, being called a bulldyke, etc.

OITNB’s Lea DeLaria on the ‘Bulldyke’ Debate, Onscreen Masturbation, and Hitting on Natasha Lyonne

Oh, and I had no idea Jodie Foster directed the 3rd episode (Lesbian Request Denied) - I totally want to go watch that episode again now. LOL

It is your dyke duty, you realize, to tell us about working with Jodie Foster [who directed episode three, “Lesbian Request Denied”].

I literally had one line, when I’m standing in line for pills. We did the first rehearsal, and Jodie came up and grabbed me by the shoulders and she goes, “You’re really very funny. You’re an incredibly funny actor. You move a lot” — my character is kind of nervous, that’s why she’s on meds — “I think that’s too much for this shot.” So I was like, I’ll tone it down. “And she’s like, 'We’re gonna keep the camera on you, and just throw out ten lines,' because the line was, 'Oh, I like the orange ones. Oh, wait a minute, they give me that terrible itch in my … ' That was the end of it. So I just chose the dot-dot-dot to be the vagina, and then every funny thing I could think of. I think take seven was “Kunta Kinte.” And Laverne [Cox, who plays Sophia] was behind me and she ruined the take because she burst out laughing when I said “Kunta Kinte.” And I was like, “Asshole, that would have been so brilliant!” And she was like, “Say it again!” and I was like, “No, no, no! I get ten takes. I’m gonna say something funny.” They ended up going with “cooter,” I believe.

[Hollylane]

It took Netflix to get me the young straight girls I’ve always wanted. [Laughs.]

~ Lea DeLaria

The quote above kind of gave me a yuck feeling. I know she said it tongue in cheek, but it is still uncomfortable to me. It is too assume she means it in a more lascivious way.

[Hollylane]

Originally Posted by Hollylane

It took Netflix to get me the young straight girls I’ve always wanted. [Laughs.]

~ Lea DeLaria

The quote above kind of gave me a yuck feeling. I know she said it tongue in cheek, but it is still uncomfortable to me. It is too easy to assume that she means it in a more lascivious way.

Uh...I left out some words. I'll put them where they belong.

[Cin]

Interesting interview of Piper Kerman
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/06/the_...black_partner/

A couple of excerpts:

Was the prison staff as homophobic as the warden in the show?

I only reflect upon my own experience, so I definitely saw a lot of homophobia from the prison staff directed at prisoners and also towards each other in sort of an unfettered or unchecked way. No one is getting in trouble in prison for being homophobic, let’s put it that way.

Is the character of Sister Ingalls — the nun who is a protester — close to reality?

Sure, fairly close, yeah, though the show’s character of course is quite different than Sister Ardeth Platte, who gave me permission to use her real name in the book. But yeah, that’s a good example. Those folks are closely drawn.

In your book, you write about encountering other political prisoners, particularly those arrested for protesting the School of Americas.

There are many political prisoners in America, particularly in the federal system. That’s where they generally all go. Often, they were serving really short sentences if they were first-time offenders, like a 90-day sentence, which is sort of ridiculous on some level, but a number of those folks had short sentences, like 90 days or six months.

Someone like Ardeth Platte was considered a repeat offender because she had committed many protests of conscience, so she was serving, if my memory is correct from the book, close to four years, as were the two other nuns she was arrested with.

How do you respond to critiques that you — and “Orange Is the New Black” — are profiting off the struggles and stories of women of color?

The book is the book, right? I wrote the book to depict my own experience, and I think that’s a really important thing. I don’t see any problem whatsoever with me depicting my own experience and telling my own story. I’m very proud of the show, but Jenji is the show’s creator and at the end of the day, she’s the ultimate decision-maker. I remain in close contact with some women I did time with—a variety of women, some of them are white, some of them are not white. The people who have been in touch with me —both when the book came out and when the show started—are excited. The people I knew in prison, if they are not excited, have not communicated that to me.

I try to be very respectful of other people’s stories and other people’s ownership of their stories. I hope that the show opens up more and more desire and demand for stories that come out of the criminal justice system. That’s what I think is most important: for people to have more and more hunger to hear about a system very different than what has been depicted to date in the media.