Orange Is The New Black

Hollylane · 08-28-2013, 10:44 PM

I would challenge anyone (as I challenged myself, after I made assumptions about what this show was about) to at least watch 4 episodes (give it a chance), and get to know a few characters before making a decision. Maybe it won't change your mind, maybe it will.

Personally, I can assure you, that after watching the entire season, I am still a proud, strong, stone-femme, feminist woman. And frankly, I do not feel like enjoying this show should leave us open to being questioned about which direction our moral compasses point, as members of this amazingly diverse and welcoming community.

For me, I found the characters to be wonderful examples of utterly and entirely fallible human beings. I love that they have flaws and strengths. The characters are raw, vulnerable, sexy, loving, kind, mean, fat, skinny, old, young, gay, lesbian, straight, bi-sexual, MTF, butch, femme, confused, uncertain, religious, not religious, have mental health issues, disabilities, drug problems, successes, failures...etc...etc...I love that so many of them are owning their shit, and growing, despite being incarcerated. I love that this show brings up every ism on every spectrum imaginable, and throws these isms in the viewers' face, so they can see exactly how ugly and stupid isms really are.

I would be insulted if the characters back stories and current experiences were less fucked up, or less heartbreaking, or if the primary characters were weak, pretty (average 20-30 year old straight male viewers' version of pretty), straight women who were LWIP (lesbians while in prison), who were prayed upon by the scary godless lesbians. Luckily, that is not what is happening on this program.

Dykea · 08-29-2013, 10:34 AM

The show is about a HUGE VARIETY of women... I don't know a SINGLE other show anywhere that has this much visibility??!!?? WOC, age, class, background, size, health, butch, lesbian... the list can seriously go ON. There are THAT many. It's cool!

I'll take OISTNB visibility of lesbians over the bubblegum BS the "L Word" was promoting ANY DAY!

The million dollar lesbians of Southern California? Paaahleeze.... and the "L word" was NEVER FUNNY.

So some of the lesbian characters on the show talk about pussy? So what? Lots of lesbians talk about pussy, fucking and enjoy it.
What's completely different about OISTNB is that it is not being **wrapped up w/a bow** for the male gaze and heterocentric consumerism.

GOOD! I'm glad. Lesbian visibility is important AND lesbian sex is AWESOME!!

lol!!

Lesbian Pride is important and sex is part of being a lesbian.

Dykea · 08-29-2013, 01:39 PM

If anyone does the Big Boo Helicopter Dance at the BF Reunion... I expect to see a video of it HERE!

candy_coated_bitch · 08-29-2013, 02:07 PM

LMFAO!!! Someone NEEDS to do it now!!!

View Poll Results: Who is your favorite character?
Piper	14	10.61%
Alex	37	28.03%
Crazy Eyes	48	36.36%
Red	26	19.70%
Daya	7	5.30%
Taystee	8	6.06%
Poussey	11	8.33%
Nicki	16	12.12%
Miss Claudette	11	8.33%
Pennsatucky	3	2.27%
Sophia	8	6.06%
Yoga Jones	3	2.27%
Other - mention in the comments	4	3.03%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

08-29-2013, 10:34 AM	#2
Dykea Junior Member How Do You Identify?: I wear garters under my Carhartts Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: single as fuck Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: usa Posts: 36 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 74 Thanked 204 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 2254146	I'm w/Parker, CCB and Holly The show is about a HUGE VARIETY of women... I don't know a SINGLE other show anywhere that has this much visibility??!!?? WOC, age, class, background, size, health, butch, lesbian... the list can seriously go ON. There are THAT many. It's cool! I'll take OISTNB visibility of lesbians over the bubblegum BS the "L Word" was promoting ANY DAY! The million dollar lesbians of Southern California? Paaahleeze.... and the "L word" was NEVER FUNNY. So some of the lesbian characters on the show talk about pussy? So what? Lots of lesbians talk about pussy, fucking and enjoy it. What's completely different about OISTNB is that it is not being wrapped up w/a bow for the male gaze and heterocentric consumerism. GOOD! I'm glad. Lesbian visibility is important AND lesbian sex is AWESOME!! lol!! Lesbian Pride is important and sex is part of being a lesbian. __________________ "I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim." ~~ Frida Kahlo

08-29-2013, 01:39 PM	#3
Dykea Junior Member How Do You Identify?: I wear garters under my Carhartts Preferred Pronoun?: she Relationship Status: single as fuck Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: usa Posts: 36 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 74 Thanked 204 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 2254146	BF Reunion Dance OFF?? If anyone does the Big Boo Helicopter Dance at the BF Reunion... I expect to see a video of it HERE! __________________ "I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim." ~~ Frida Kahlo

08-28-2013, 10:44 PM	#1
Hollylane Practically Lives Here How Do You Identify?: . Preferred Pronoun?: . Relationship Status: . Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: . Posts: 11,495 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 34,694 Thanked 26,362 Times in 5,875 Posts Rep Power: 21474862	I would challenge anyone (as I challenged myself, after I made assumptions about what this show was about) to at least watch 4 episodes (give it a chance), and get to know a few characters before making a decision. Maybe it won't change your mind, maybe it will. Personally, I can assure you, that after watching the entire season, I am still a proud, strong, stone-femme, feminist woman. And frankly, I do not feel like enjoying this show should leave us open to being questioned about which direction our moral compasses point, as members of this amazingly diverse and welcoming community. For me, I found the characters to be wonderful examples of utterly and entirely fallible human beings. I love that they have flaws and strengths. The characters are raw, vulnerable, sexy, loving, kind, mean, fat, skinny, old, young, gay, lesbian, straight, bi-sexual, MTF, butch, femme, confused, uncertain, religious, not religious, have mental health issues, disabilities, drug problems, successes, failures...etc...etc...I love that so many of them are owning their shit, and growing, despite being incarcerated. I love that this show brings up every ism on every spectrum imaginable, and throws these isms in the viewers' face, so they can see exactly how ugly and stupid isms really are. I would be insulted if the characters back stories and current experiences were less fucked up, or less heartbreaking, or if the primary characters were weak, pretty (average 20-30 year old straight male viewers' version of pretty), straight women who were LWIP (lesbians while in prison), who were prayed upon by the scary godless lesbians. Luckily, that is not what is happening on this program.

08-29-2013, 02:07 PM	#4
candy_coated_bitch Pixie Stick How Do You Identify?: The arteest formerly known as musicfemme. Preferred Pronoun?: She. Relationship Status: Happily taken. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Northampton, MA Posts: 11,293 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 31,723 Thanked 31,821 Times in 6,109 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	LMFAO!!! Someone NEEDS to do it now!!!