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Old 11-06-2013, 04:03 PM   #1
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Well, I found out about 2 months ago that the surgeries I want (and are covered) I cannot have UNTIL I LOSE WEIGHT.

For those who have not met me, I am a BIG BOY.

Weighing 405 pounds 2 months ago and getting the news that I must be at/under a BMI of 34. That means for me, I must weigh approx 230 pounds.

185 to lose.

I am concerned for the visibility of my enormous chest when the gut begins to disappear.

I am working out daily and have determination.

25 pounds down and 150 to go.
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Well, I found out about 2 months ago that the surgeries I want (and are covered) I cannot have UNTIL I LOSE WEIGHT.

For those who have not met me, I am a BIG BOY.

Weighing 405 pounds 2 months ago and getting the news that I must be at/under a BMI of 34. That means for me, I must weigh approx 230 pounds.

185 to lose.

I am concerned for the visibility of my enormous chest when the gut begins to disappear.

I am working out daily and have determination.

25 pounds down and 150 to go.
if you bind it may get easier as you lose. For me they were saggier and easier to manipulate.

Are there health issues besides body size?
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if you bind it may get easier as you lose. For me they were saggier and easier to manipulate.

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Yes, as your gut goes down, your chest will decrease in size, too.

Congrats on the 25lbs in 2 months!
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Ooopster,

I have been binding since I was 22. I was at 200 pounds in high school and near my ideal body wt. I still had an over endowment. It is what it is.

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Just saw this on one of my mailing lists:

A Brand New Edition of the book Natural Transitioning: an FTM alternative will be published in early 2014. This will be a very revised version, focusing more on organic, all-natural foods (including vegan, paleo, etc.) - and supplements/remedies that are purely homeopathic in nature.
Will include additional chapters as I have gained greater knowledge talking to experts/professionals in various fields. Will also include my transition from NT to taking testosterone.





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Hey, Linus, I received this email, too.

I have mixed feelings on the author. I also think it is notable that though he writes about natural transitioning, he actually decided it wasn't enough and so he went on synthetic T.

Granted he wrote the first book prior to going on T, but now why revise/write about natural transitioning again after finding out that it didn't work? I guess "work enough for him", is what he would say.

My mixed feelings is that the little I know of him makes me wonder if what fuels him the most is the money that he can make off of his "natural transitioning". Maybe I am wrong about the guy. I admit, it is based more on my gut about him, than anything. He and his partner just do not seem genuine to me.

Is my gut off about him? Let me know what you think, because honestly, I wouldn't mind ordering his book. I just don't want to "support" him in any way if my instincts are right about him (and his biggest motivation is figuring out a way how to make money off of his notoriety in the FTM community). It seems like a lot of guys who have no resources to buy T/no access to getting T, have tried his suggestions and have been disappointed (I'm talking about the teens/early 20's).
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I tend to be very skeptical about this. There are lots of products out there that purport to help mtf's transition, and don't do much, if anything. When I started transition, I was using a supplement based program, and I'm not at all sure that it would have worked well, had I continued on with it, instead of going to pharmacutical meds.
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I share Dapper's skepticism. He kinda loses credibility going on T if his NT is that effective. For myself, I do a lot of research for health and body building. I'm pretty damn sure that if his approach was really that effective, it would be all over the net, especially in muscle and body circles. Testosterone is one of the most desirable ingredients for those endeavors. If a natural or homeopathic solution was available and viable, we'd all know about it..Just my .02.
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Well, I found out about 2 months ago that the surgeries I want (and are covered) I cannot have UNTIL I LOSE WEIGHT.

For those who have not met me, I am a BIG BOY.

Weighing 405 pounds 2 months ago and getting the news that I must be at/under a BMI of 34. That means for me, I must weigh approx 230 pounds.

185 to lose.

I am concerned for the visibility of my enormous chest when the gut begins to disappear.

I am working out daily and have determination.

25 pounds down and 150 to go.
Congrats on losing that amount of weight, already. Don't feel totally alone, though. If and when I ever get my surgeries, I am going to need to lose weight, as well. One surgeon, as I recall, won't take me unless I weigh under 200lbs. I last weighed in at about 225, though I rather suspect that that was just the daily cycle that we go through, with our weight. I won't feel as if I have lost any weight until I reach at least about 215.

I really want to get down to about 170 or so, and my body firmed up. I was all the way down to 177lbs, back in 2007, when the endo blackmailed me into quitting smoking. I gained 30lbs from that, and haven't lost it yet.
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