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Old 04-16-2010, 12:53 AM   #1
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This part, I agree with.

''Bottom line: you have a better sense than anybody does about what feels right.''

Words, off to prepare breakfast for the wife and six kids that B. forgot to mention during O/our six-month online romance. Not. *Insert eye roll*

P.S. In all seriousness, it's wise to be careful...sometimes, though, you just gotta go, aided by a not insignificant ammount of common sense, with what feels right.

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Old 04-16-2010, 02:40 AM   #2
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I think I prefer being set-up.... Well, only by those that really know me well... However, I did meet my last partner online, however, that was 9 years ago and I see a difference with my experiences then and now. Hummm... wonder if it has to do with recent dating within the B -F community almost exclusively? First time for me to do so and I have actually shifted away from this now. Feels too constraining and scripted for me in many ways. LOL... actually shifted away from dating entirely lately! And its Spring...

Who knows! Actually, I find that that where I live has many dating opportunities in which B-F folks are intermingled with the various LGBTI sub-communities and that just works better for me. A very positive thing for someone that doesn't like group think.
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:21 AM   #3
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Thank you all for your responses. Even if you didnt agree.. For some of us it rings true and others it doesnt. I just enjoyed the article and thought I'd share and get a different discussion going
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I think basing all of your future relationships off of past relationships only sets you up for being perpetually single.

I mean, yeah, there's a difference between using common sense and being a moron

But I also tend to think that if the same things keep happening with everyone you date, that has more to do with you than 'everyone you date'. When the only common variable is you, you're probably what's really at issue.

Looking for reasons NOT to date someone is kind of setting them up to fail, and you'll never find a partner. Yeah, some people are assholes, but if you treat everyone else like they're 'going to be an asshole, and I'm going to prove it by looking for any reason to prove that theory...see, look, you don't talk to me during these times. HA! gotcha fucker!" you're only setting yourself up.

If you look at the rest of the world as assholes just waiting to treat you badly, you'll definitely prove that's true...but maybe not because everyone really is an asshole, but because you treat everyone like they're an asshole.


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I think for the most part you can put yourself out there to meet people online and in the real world and still be careful about what's you're risking. Especially in the beginning it shouldn't be a problem to casually get to know someone. I really don't see how there can be one time table for all. Everyone's situation is not the same. Especially as some have already mentioned if you are getting to know someone from out of town you may not have the money to fly/drive whatever to meet them right away. Sometimes rushing things is not good anyway. Also, desperation is not an attractive quality. At least in my opinion. If you start to play that tape over and over about how you're not ever going to meet someone, how lonely it is being single I'm not really sure you're going to be able to get or attract the kind of relationship that is lasting, stable and healthy.
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But I also tend to think that if the same things keep happening with everyone you date, that has more to do with you than 'everyone you date'. When the only common variable is you, you're probably what's really at issue.

If you look at the rest of the world as assholes just waiting to treat you badly, you'll definitely prove that's true...but maybe not because everyone really is an asshole, but because you treat everyone like they're an asshole.
I totally agree. I am highly suspicious of the perpetually-wronged-in-relationships folks. I mean, I feel bad for them. But . . . .

I get wanting to be single, too. But swearing off because people are too whatever is just not healthy. If you prefer being on your own, wahoooo. If you just don't think the world is fair or happiness is possible for you, it's definitely time for some personal work, IMO.
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I think the time-frame guidelines might not apply to us in the butch-femme community, for one very simple reason: we're a very small community scattered all over the globe; quite often we find compatible partners quite far away. You can't expect to reasonably meet inside a month if the two of you are ten states apart and neither has the money for constant travel--or if you're in two different countries.

I also think the part about not meeting family wouldn't necessarily apply when so many of us are estranged from our families.

I do think that at least having contact with someone's friends is a very good idea--if your love interest is online, the friends are likely to be as well. But I wouldn't expect to meet the friends face to face unless the relationship moved face to face, yanno?
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I totally agree. I am highly suspicious of the perpetually-wronged-in-relationships folks. I mean, I feel bad for them. But . . . .

I get wanting to be single, too. But swearing off because people are too whatever is just not healthy. If you prefer being on your own, wahoooo. If you just don't think the world is fair or happiness is possible for you, it's definitely time for some personal work, IMO.
I am just as suspicious of the Knights and Knightess' in Shining Armour. If you want to rescue a princess or prince please for the love of god be honest about the fact that you're an Ogre.
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I am just as suspicious of the Knights and Knightess' in Shining Armour. If you want to rescue a princess or prince please for the love of god be honest about the fact that you're an Ogre.
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I think basing all of your future relationships off of past relationships only sets you up for being perpetually single.

I mean, yeah, there's a difference between using common sense and being a moron

But I also tend to think that if the same things keep happening with everyone you date, that has more to do with you than 'everyone you date'. When the only common variable is you, you're probably what's really at issue.

Looking for reasons NOT to date someone is kind of setting them up to fail, and you'll never find a partner. Yeah, some people are assholes, but if you treat everyone else like they're 'going to be an asshole, and I'm going to prove it by looking for any reason to prove that theory...see, look, you don't talk to me during these times. HA! gotcha fucker!" you're only setting yourself up.

If you look at the rest of the world as assholes just waiting to treat you badly, you'll definitely prove that's true...but maybe not because everyone really is an asshole, but because you treat everyone like they're an asshole.


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Some good points here! Have to take off the blinders, sometime! Always a red-flag to me when a woman I am dating goes into a negative comparative mode.... I know that she is not really dating me.... Remaining emotionally stuck doesn't make for good relationship building skills.

Another set-up for failure is just not taking the time to process a prior relationship. Everyone has a different internal clock with this, but, really being over it, makes a difference in future relationship possibilities. No matter how i meet someone, if the conversations are heavily filled about an ex, I know its best to offer friendship and nothing else at the moment. maybe later something can develop.

Also, a rule I have is finding out about someone on my own... not via talk, gossip, ex's, etc.

Just thinking about the fact that I do know a fair amount of couples that began via the internet that are doing quite well. I agree with Words that common sense and some caution is a good thing here, but, how people meet to me, just doesn't correlate with how things could work out.
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