Pillow Princess

The_Lady_Snow · 03-10-2014, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch

I think a little clarity would be helpful here.

Were you born a biological male (meaning, assigned male at birth)?

Or are you a person who was born biologically female (meaning, assigned female at birth), who identifies as a straight male?

Thanks.

Well fuck, I never thought to ask, I just assumed he was not a cisgender dude

nycfem · 03-10-2014, 08:36 PM

Just to be clear, this site is not for cis gender males. I have PM-ed him but have not yet heard back (sent message same time as Dapper). I think what he is saying is that he is a cis gender male who has queer friends and has liked being intimate with a queer woman, he thought this site might be a cool place to chill with people on. Unfortunately this is not the right site for him if he is a cis gender male. Just to be extra clear some trans men id as het males / straight males and are welcome on the site... but this site is not for cis gender males whether straight or homosexual!

DapperButch · 03-10-2014, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem

Just to be clear, this site is not for cis gender males. I have PM-ed him but have not yet heard back (sent message same time as Dapper). I think what he is saying is that he is a cis gender male who has queer friends and has liked being intimate with a queer woman, he thought this site might be a cool place to chill with people on. Unfortunately this is not the right site for him if he is a cis gender male. Just to be extra clear some trans men id as het males / straight males and are welcome on the site... but this site is not for cis gender males whether straight or homosexual!

Right. I used the terms biological and assigned male/female at birth, as there are a lot of people out there who do not know what the term cis means.

Yes, we have more than one FTM "straight" person here, so that is why I thought it was important to ask the question. Also, some people stop identifying as "trans*", if they view their transition as "complete" (which is why I specifically asked what sex they were assigned at birth).

Glad you stepped in and PMmed him, NYC.

EDIT: posted this prior to seeing NYC's latest posts

The_Lady_Snow · 03-10-2014, 08:54 PM

Well that was certainly interesting for a Monday!

DapperButch · 03-10-2014, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Well that was certainly interesting for a Monday!

Truly laughed out loud.

nycfem · 03-10-2014, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DapperButch

Also, some people stop identifying as "trans*", if they view their transition as "complete" (which is why I specifically asked what sex they were assigned at birth).

Thanks, Dapper, yes, thanks for articulating.

RockOn · 03-10-2014, 09:03 PM

I was out to lunch a bit daydreaming about our topic here. Once I saw what was going on, I went and read all of this person's posts. In his 4:02 p.m. post, I quote small part:

"I just want to say, as a straight male ..."

I had a bad situation back in 1990 when an out of town straight male started attending my Gay recovery meetings. Long story short, he began stalking me outside of meetings. I did not fear him but it was all too creepy. This guy in the recovery meetings and this guy here tonight sounded a great deal alike in what they were saying.

RockOn · 03-10-2014, 08:37 PM

I "read" him to be a bio straight male. If wrong, I have to apologize.

Anyway, that is the reason why I (as Jet noticed )sugar-coated my response.

RockOn · 03-10-2014, 08:45 PM

Thank you, nycfemm!

Now, can someone please come and talk more hot about Pillow Princesses?

nycfem · 03-10-2014, 08:46 PM

So it's been clarified that this is a cis gender bio-born male (I should have added bio-born in my own previous post), and I have explained that this site is just not the right place for bio born cis gendered males. He's taking a gracious exit.

nycfem · 03-10-2014, 08:47 PM

BTW, pardon my struggle with the vocab soup. Just trying to handle this quickly due to many reports. Hopefully it's clear what I am trying to get across.

fatallyblonde · 03-10-2014, 09:03 PM

JFC another good topic derailed by a bro coming in and chucking his weight all around. vomit.

ANYWAY. back to the topic at hand!

"pillow princess" is definitely a derogatory term but lots of us princesses have reclaimed it XD cos as others have pointed out the perception is that we 'just lay there and do nothing' but actually we are certainly active, passionate participants... just the nature of our participation looks different to the 'you fuck me then I fuck you' style... some people can't understand it... well honeys... you're not fucking us so you don't fucking have to lol!
Those who love the pillow princesses know and appreciate and respect our own style of participation and love us for it! Just as we love them for what they give us.

I personally never switch... it feels unnatural and inauthentic to me... just not how I get down. I can't relax in that role. It feels false. That's not how sex should feel! So I don't switch but certainly I know many, many people who do and love it.

I'm all about do what is right for you with partners who have complementary desire...

if pillow princesses are not your thing then fine... but don't make the mistake of thinking there aren't plenty of people for whom pillow princesses are exactly right! and most of all don't diss the way other consenting adults enjoy having sex with each other... just because it isn't your thing.

flapdoodle · 02-04-2015, 09:55 PM

I am a total Pillow Princess. Realizing it's not for everyone, I made sure i found dudes that understood I like being a bodacious play-thing. They crave it as I do.

Those who aren't "into" it or have mistaken my identity to mean a lazy Princess who fluffs pillows and says "do me", will, perhaps never understand that's not so.

For this choice, I have been made fun of, told I was wrong for being one, yada yada. I agree, it's often said in a negative sense, like it's bad thing to be a Pillow Princess..
That kind of makes me dig it even more

It's the whole, mind body soul.....and the rest, is magic

Luckydwg07 · 02-05-2015, 11:58 AM

I'm very fond of pillow princesses. My sexual pleasure is always present when they are feeling the their own from me. Nothing selfish about it either its just what we do. To have someone enjoy what I do for them in this sense. I love it!
Saying "Please" is the word for me.. nice.. all night all day!

Jet · 03-10-2014, 08:57 PM

Kal-El Trail, you know, this is in the forum OTHER SEXUALITIES AND IDENTITIES. That includes Straight. It's easy to stumble upon and post just because you see this as an open forum. But it would serve you well to do your homework and read up before you come on strong after, let's say "a hard day's work as workin' man tough guy which you claim to be. Bad move.

So, Kal-El Trail before you hit the trail, know this...

One, you're not the only man here. The men here are just as valid as you as FtMs and TGs and stone TGs. Some guys here may indeed be biologically straight. Who knows. But there are guys here who could kick your face off your head. So never come on like a tough guy because you're asking for it. If you don't believe me, bring 'er on down to jo-juh.

Two, do your homework. People join sites because they feel safe and they want to express themselves in a space that accomodates their views. Knowledge would serve you well, sir.

Three, don't fuck this up for yourself. Be considerate of other people. This is NOT adultfinder.com or Facebook or the like where there is only one way to think—you're way. The lady (Ms. Tinkerbelly) didn't like your post, much less your presence, but she might have had you been sensitive and considerate had you looked before you leaped. Good luck.

nycfem · 03-10-2014, 08:59 PM

Let's move on.

The_Lady_Snow · 03-10-2014, 09:05 PM

Woah, I hope we don't have guys, butches or TG folk who want to kick people's faces off their heads!

Yuck!
Not ok!

nycfem · 03-10-2014, 09:11 PM

No threats of violence allowed (please keep this in mind, Jet).

If we want to talk about straight bio cis gendered males, someone please start a thread on that, but for now let's get back to rockin' the pillow talk!

Jet · 03-10-2014, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nycfem

No threats of violence allowed (please keep this in mind, Jet).

If we want to talk about straight bio cis gendered males, someone please start a thread on that, but for now let's get back to rockin' the pillow talk!

Okay Jennifer.

fatallyblonde · 03-10-2014, 09:12 PM

I actually would like to write something a little hot musings on princessing especially to steer convo back on track but I'm not convinced our little superman wouldn't still be reading, which makes me feel icky tbh. :/

but I'm thinking it... I'm thinking it!!!

03-10-2014, 08:36 PM	#2
nycfem Moderator How Do You Identify?: femme sub Preferred Pronoun?: Baby Grrl Relationship Status: Attached Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,794 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 52,987 Thanked 21,427 Times in 5,101 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	Just to be clear, this site is not for cis gender males. I have PM-ed him but have not yet heard back (sent message same time as Dapper). I think what he is saying is that he is a cis gender male who has queer friends and has liked being intimate with a queer woman, he thought this site might be a cool place to chill with people on. Unfortunately this is not the right site for him if he is a cis gender male. Just to be extra clear some trans men id as het males / straight males and are welcome on the site... but this site is not for cis gender males whether straight or homosexual! __________________ *** How do I... ?** Check out the Members Helping Members thread: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...embers+Helping

03-10-2014, 08:54 PM	#4
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,077 Times in 15,670 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	So long, farewell.., Well that was certainly interesting for a Monday! __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden

03-10-2014, 08:46 PM	#10
nycfem Moderator How Do You Identify?: femme sub Preferred Pronoun?: Baby Grrl Relationship Status: Attached Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,794 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 52,987 Thanked 21,427 Times in 5,101 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	So it's been clarified that this is a cis gender bio-born male (I should have added bio-born in my own previous post), and I have explained that this site is just not the right place for bio born cis gendered males. He's taking a gracious exit. __________________ *** How do I... ?** Check out the Members Helping Members thread: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...embers+Helping

03-10-2014, 08:47 PM	#11
nycfem Moderator How Do You Identify?: femme sub Preferred Pronoun?: Baby Grrl Relationship Status: Attached Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,794 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 52,987 Thanked 21,427 Times in 5,101 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	BTW, pardon my struggle with the vocab soup. Just trying to handle this quickly due to many reports. Hopefully it's clear what I am trying to get across. __________________ *** How do I... ?** Check out the Members Helping Members thread: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...embers+Helping

02-05-2015, 11:58 AM	#14
Luckydwg07 Member How Do You Identify?: Yes Ma'am! Butchiness- hard shell candy with a soft center Relationship Status: I've bee found-Life has new meaning to me Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: yankee in southern waters Posts: 352 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 685 Thanked 312 Times in 136 Posts Rep Power: 2730229	Give and Take I'm very fond of pillow princesses. My sexual pleasure is always present when they are feeling the their own from me. Nothing selfish about it either its just what we do. To have someone enjoy what I do for them in this sense. I love it! Saying "Please" is the word for me.. nice.. all night all day! __________________ Dogs' Lives are too Short. Their Only Fault Really. Agnos Sligh Turnbull

03-10-2014, 09:03 PM	#7
RockOn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: sitting over there ----->>>>> :) Preferred Pronoun?: .... Relationship Status: .... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .... Posts: 3,522 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,081 Thanked 10,304 Times in 2,610 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I was out to lunch a bit daydreaming about our topic here. Once I saw what was going on, I went and read all of this person's posts. In his 4:02 p.m. post, I quote small part: "I just want to say, as a straight male ..." I had a bad situation back in 1990 when an out of town straight male started attending my Gay recovery meetings. Long story short, he began stalking me outside of meetings. I did not fear him but it was all too creepy. This guy in the recovery meetings and this guy here tonight sounded a great deal alike in what they were saying.

03-10-2014, 08:37 PM	#8
RockOn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: sitting over there ----->>>>> :) Preferred Pronoun?: .... Relationship Status: .... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .... Posts: 3,522 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,081 Thanked 10,304 Times in 2,610 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	I "read" him to be a bio straight male. If wrong, I have to apologize. Anyway, that is the reason why I (as Jet noticed )sugar-coated my response.

03-10-2014, 08:45 PM	#9
RockOn Senior Member How Do You Identify?: sitting over there ----->>>>> :) Preferred Pronoun?: .... Relationship Status: .... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .... Posts: 3,522 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 9,081 Thanked 10,304 Times in 2,610 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	Thank you, nycfemm! Now, can someone please come and talk more hot about Pillow Princesses?

03-10-2014, 09:03 PM	#12
fatallyblonde Member How Do You Identify?: lesbian femme Preferred Pronoun?: She/Her Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: earth Posts: 446 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 389 Thanked 770 Times in 181 Posts Rep Power: 7054721	JFC another good topic derailed by a bro coming in and chucking his weight all around. vomit. ANYWAY. back to the topic at hand! "pillow princess" is definitely a derogatory term but lots of us princesses have reclaimed it XD cos as others have pointed out the perception is that we 'just lay there and do nothing' but actually we are certainly active, passionate participants... just the nature of our participation looks different to the 'you fuck me then I fuck you' style... some people can't understand it... well honeys... you're not fucking us so you don't fucking have to lol! Those who love the pillow princesses know and appreciate and respect our own style of participation and love us for it! Just as we love them for what they give us. I personally never switch... it feels unnatural and inauthentic to me... just not how I get down. I can't relax in that role. It feels false. That's not how sex should feel! So I don't switch but certainly I know many, many people who do and love it. I'm all about do what is right for you with partners who have complementary desire... if pillow princesses are not your thing then fine... but don't make the mistake of thinking there aren't plenty of people for whom pillow princesses are exactly right! and most of all don't diss the way other consenting adults enjoy having sex with each other... just because it isn't your thing.

02-04-2015, 09:55 PM	#13
flapdoodle Junior Member How Do You Identify?: I'm the Mrs. Preferred Pronoun?: reflexive Relationship Status: Married in 2013 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: sing it Frankie baby Posts: 81 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 8 Thanked 245 Times in 59 Posts Rep Power: 1073757	I am a total Pillow Princess. Realizing it's not for everyone, I made sure i found dudes that understood I like being a bodacious play-thing. They crave it as I do. Those who aren't "into" it or have mistaken my identity to mean a lazy Princess who fluffs pillows and says "do me", will, perhaps never understand that's not so. For this choice, I have been made fun of, told I was wrong for being one, yada yada. I agree, it's often said in a negative sense, like it's bad thing to be a Pillow Princess.. That kind of makes me dig it even more It's the whole, mind body soul.....and the rest, is magic

03-10-2014, 08:57 PM	#15
Jet Timed Out - TOS Drama How Do You Identify?: .. Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: .. Posts: 3,471 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 292 Thanked 2,647 Times in 1,293 Posts Rep Power: 0	Kal-El Trail, you know, this is in the forum OTHER SEXUALITIES AND IDENTITIES. That includes Straight. It's easy to stumble upon and post just because you see this as an open forum. But it would serve you well to do your homework and read up before you come on strong after, let's say "a hard day's work as workin' man tough guy which you claim to be. Bad move. So, Kal-El Trail before you hit the trail, know this... One, you're not the only man here. The men here are just as valid as you as FtMs and TGs and stone TGs. Some guys here may indeed be biologically straight. Who knows. But there are guys here who could kick your face off your head. So never come on like a tough guy because you're asking for it. If you don't believe me, bring 'er on down to jo-juh. Two, do your homework. People join sites because they feel safe and they want to express themselves in a space that accomodates their views. Knowledge would serve you well, sir. Three, don't fuck this up for yourself. Be considerate of other people. This is NOT adultfinder.com or Facebook or the like where there is only one way to think—you're way. The lady (Ms. Tinkerbelly) didn't like your post, much less your presence, but she might have had you been sensitive and considerate had you looked before you leaped. Good luck.

03-10-2014, 08:59 PM	#16
nycfem Moderator How Do You Identify?: femme sub Preferred Pronoun?: Baby Grrl Relationship Status: Attached Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,794 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 52,987 Thanked 21,427 Times in 5,101 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	Let's move on. __________________ *** How do I... ?** Check out the Members Helping Members thread: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...embers+Helping

03-10-2014, 09:05 PM	#17
The_Lady_Snow MILLION $$$ PUSSY How Do You Identify?: Kinky, Raw, Perverted, Uber Queer Alpha Femme Preferred Pronoun?: Iconic Ms. Relationship Status: Keeper of 3, only one has the map to my freckles Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: La Reina del Sur Posts: 22,488 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 32,231 Thanked 80,077 Times in 15,670 Posts Rep Power: 21474874	To violent! Woah, I hope we don't have guys, butches or TG folk who want to kick people's faces off their heads! Yuck! Not ok! __________________ "If you’re going to play these dirty games of ours, then you might as well indulge completely. It’s all about turning back into an animal and that’s the beauty of it. Place your guilt on the sidewalk and take a blow torch to it (guilt is usually worthless anyway). Be perverted, be filthy, do things that mannered people shouldn’t do. If you’re going to be gross then go for it and don’t wimp out."---Master Aiden Last edited by The_Lady_Snow; 03-10-2014 at 09:14 PM.

03-10-2014, 09:11 PM	#18
nycfem Moderator How Do You Identify?: femme sub Preferred Pronoun?: Baby Grrl Relationship Status: Attached Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,794 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 52,987 Thanked 21,427 Times in 5,101 Posts Rep Power: 21474855	No threats of violence allowed (please keep this in mind, Jet). If we want to talk about straight bio cis gendered males, someone please start a thread on that, but for now let's get back to rockin' the pillow talk! __________________ *** How do I... ?** Check out the Members Helping Members thread: http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/foru...embers+Helping

03-10-2014, 09:12 PM	#20
fatallyblonde Member How Do You Identify?: lesbian femme Preferred Pronoun?: She/Her Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: earth Posts: 446 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 389 Thanked 770 Times in 181 Posts Rep Power: 7054721	I actually would like to write something a little hot musings on princessing especially to steer convo back on track but I'm not convinced our little superman wouldn't still be reading, which makes me feel icky tbh. :/ but I'm thinking it... I'm thinking it!!!