Orange is the New Black: Season 2 Discussion

ProfPacker · 06-19-2014, 01:45 PM

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...ional_and.html

Dude · 06-19-2014, 04:03 PM

My brain might explode if I don't purge something about
this show. Can I be brief ? No , probably not ;/
As much as I love the show , I felt my intelligence insulted
by unrealistic story lines. It felt hurried with filler that did
Not interest me. I felt even more ripped off when I learned
there is a 5 woman / 2 men writing team , with a 4 million
budget for a one hour show. Seriously? I hope they do better.

Things I would like to see happen are:
Fig comes back as inmate ( highly unlikely in the real world but
I would soo enjoy it anyway)

The father to be needs to quit his job there, find a better one
and those two be together . The end -already

Healey's wife kills him in self defence as he tries to force her
into wifely duties. ( dislike him - want him gone)
The wife and Red fall madly in love, get out together and open
their own restaurant. ( I'd shave Red's legs anyday - her husband
has deserted her -FFs - give her some love)

Rosa and Morello bond was heartwarming.
Morello gets counseling for her fucked up childhood
and her and Nikki live happily evah after.

Boo - her and Nikki know where the heroin is. Nikki
Again does the right thing knowing she will use again
if it's in there. Boo tries to hide it again but the DEA
( who was called in) busts her, takes her off in a van.
The driver of the van is Vee in disguise! Bwah !

Vee may not be dead. She is such a good actress she could
likely pull off coming back in a different role. I'd now like to see
her replace the " invisible wardon" and come back as a kick ass
positive character. ( far fetched maybe but she is that good!)

Piper - be gone. I liked her more season 2 but ... Alex had freedom,
I hope Alex finds out it was her doing , and hooks up with hmm ...
someone not so selfish. Yes, in a way she is trying to protect her from
being offed but she should have let her dissapear .Alex could then
somehow get the king pin off her ass and swoop up Piper when she gets out.
But I don't like Piper - so forget that ending! ;/

Sophia ( Sophia - Sophia <3 ) focus on her for an entire series,
her and son work through their stuff , released early for good behavior
opens a salon next to Red's restaurant! Snort ! Why not?

Yoga's back story. I'd like to see more of it as a recovering alcoholic.
People don't understand how dangerous drunks can get. I know two
women who have both accidentally killed kids while driving drunk.
I know she shot a kid but That wasn't Really her and she's better now.
Let her out but have her come back and do group.
She can write a best seller ,open a yoga shop
around the corner from Sophia and Red.

Poussey? Her eyes damn! I'd fix her breakfast too!
Tastee goes to shoe for a month and realizes she's
In love with Poussey , they both get released early ,
get married and live happily ever aftah

The end ( yeah)
So many characters to love they could do this for years
and I hope they will.
I also hope they will stream some of that money into
Real women's prisons and think if they did they would be
A huge success for a very long time.
If not money , then prompt investigations and reform.
Miss Claudette had a bad accident in real life ( apparently
With Out sufficient medical coverage) and I
hope they do the right thing by her too.

It would be great if they figured out a way to bring
her back.
If they can randomly call off a twelve inmate transfer
They can do anything right?
The face licker in Chicago was scarier to me than Vee.
Transfer her in to torment Piper a little?
Oh ....and
Can Pennsitucky go off her new meds? ( soon?!)
I don't want to like her - evah! Thanks ;]
Ok
I think I'm
Done
Now

Woah

Dude · 06-19-2014, 05:26 PM

Wait !
I forgot my newest crush ? - Gloria!
She falls for crazy eyes and helps her not be crazy!
A nice , slow romance. Gloria invents an herbal remedy
for Suzanne 's issues. That would be a hot couple.
Not one inter racial couple? It is time.
Notice how I'm turning everyone queer? ;]

*Anya* · 06-19-2014, 05:46 PM

Love your questions for analysis CCB!

Don't have time to respond right now, still @ work but I will say:

Alex would not necessarily have to f**k me but I sure would like it if she talked to me all night.

Love her voice!

(My honey knows this little piece of info).

Dude · 06-20-2014, 10:47 AM

Ew
Let me clarify what I was trying to say about Healey.
I should have been more clear with my wording.
I think he is a sexist ass who thinks he's entitled to
his rage. How many therapists do you know who would
allow him to stay seated or continue on after calling
them a c_ _t? End of session for me. I hate that he was
Not dismissed immediately when he did that.
Maybe they were trying to show the crap women have
to deal with? Who would feel comfortable alone with a
strange man who just called you that? Him picking a
woman therapist felt gross to me too.
We saw his anger around his wife , a few sessions about
feelings with Pennsitucky does not fix a rage - aholic.
I hope they don't think we are that dumb.
So yeah , I see a ticking time bomb with no respect for
women and want him to snap and go away.

imperfect_cupcake · 06-20-2014, 01:34 PM

But... Isn't this following the book that was a real life experience of someone?

Dude · 06-20-2014, 02:02 PM

There's an interview with the writer on Huffpost.
Many things have been changed.
She is actually back with Larry and has no contact with
Alex.

Who read the book? I've read it was eh so I'm
not sure I want to.

ProfPacker · 06-20-2014, 02:08 PM

Yes, it is following the book
I am half way through it. I heard Piper Kierman say that the creators did use creative license in that the real life Alex and Piper were never incacreated together, the real Piper says that there was no sexual activity that she engaged in. So, to answer your question, the bare bones of the story were there and then, we'll was developed into the show we are drawn to

06-19-2014, 01:45 PM	#1
ProfPacker Member How Do You Identify?: butch/MOC Preferred Pronoun?: Hy/hym/hys but in circumstances like work and some other places she Relationship Status: single Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: nj Posts: 1,365 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 7,023 Thanked 4,815 Times in 1,187 Posts Rep Power: 21474849	Interesting analysis of Morello http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...ional_and.html

06-19-2014, 05:46 PM	#4
Anya Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Lesbian non-stone femme Preferred Pronoun?: She, her Relationship Status: Committed to being good to myself Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Coast Posts: 8,258 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 39,306 Thanked 40,455 Times in 7,284 Posts Rep Power: 21474858	Love your questions for analysis CCB! Don't have time to respond right now, still @ work but I will say: Alex would not necessarily have to f**k me but I sure would like it if she talked to me all night. Love her voice! (My honey knows this little piece of info). __________________ ~Anya~ Democracy Dies in Darkness ~Washington Post "...I'm deeply concerned by recently adopted policies which punish children for their parents’ actions ... The thought that any State would seek to deter parents by inflicting such abuse on children is unconscionable." UN Human Rights commissioner

06-19-2014, 04:03 PM	#2
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,605 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	My brain might explode if I don't purge something about this show. Can I be brief ? No , probably not ;/ As much as I love the show , I felt my intelligence insulted by unrealistic story lines. It felt hurried with filler that did Not interest me. I felt even more ripped off when I learned there is a 5 woman / 2 men writing team , with a 4 million budget for a one hour show. Seriously? I hope they do better. Things I would like to see happen are: Fig comes back as inmate ( highly unlikely in the real world but I would soo enjoy it anyway) The father to be needs to quit his job there, find a better one and those two be together . The end -already Healey's wife kills him in self defence as he tries to force her into wifely duties. ( dislike him - want him gone) The wife and Red fall madly in love, get out together and open their own restaurant. ( I'd shave Red's legs anyday - her husband has deserted her -FFs - give her some love) Rosa and Morello bond was heartwarming. Morello gets counseling for her fucked up childhood and her and Nikki live happily evah after. Boo - her and Nikki know where the heroin is. Nikki Again does the right thing knowing she will use again if it's in there. Boo tries to hide it again but the DEA ( who was called in) busts her, takes her off in a van. The driver of the van is Vee in disguise! Bwah ! Vee may not be dead. She is such a good actress she could likely pull off coming back in a different role. I'd now like to see her replace the " invisible wardon" and come back as a kick ass positive character. ( far fetched maybe but she is that good!) Piper - be gone. I liked her more season 2 but ... Alex had freedom, I hope Alex finds out it was her doing , and hooks up with hmm ... someone not so selfish. Yes, in a way she is trying to protect her from being offed but she should have let her dissapear .Alex could then somehow get the king pin off her ass and swoop up Piper when she gets out. But I don't like Piper - so forget that ending! ;/ Sophia ( Sophia - Sophia <3 ) focus on her for an entire series, her and son work through their stuff , released early for good behavior opens a salon next to Red's restaurant! Snort ! Why not? Yoga's back story. I'd like to see more of it as a recovering alcoholic. People don't understand how dangerous drunks can get. I know two women who have both accidentally killed kids while driving drunk. I know she shot a kid but That wasn't Really her and she's better now. Let her out but have her come back and do group. She can write a best seller ,open a yoga shop around the corner from Sophia and Red. Poussey? Her eyes damn! I'd fix her breakfast too! Tastee goes to shoe for a month and realizes she's In love with Poussey , they both get released early , get married and live happily ever aftah The end ( yeah) So many characters to love they could do this for years and I hope they will. I also hope they will stream some of that money into Real women's prisons and think if they did they would be A huge success for a very long time. If not money , then prompt investigations and reform. Miss Claudette had a bad accident in real life ( apparently With Out sufficient medical coverage) and I hope they do the right thing by her too. It would be great if they figured out a way to bring her back. If they can randomly call off a twelve inmate transfer They can do anything right? The face licker in Chicago was scarier to me than Vee. Transfer her in to torment Piper a little? Oh ....and Can Pennsitucky go off her new meds? ( soon?!) I don't want to like her - evah! Thanks ;] Ok I think I'm Done Now Woah

06-19-2014, 05:26 PM	#3
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,605 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Wait ! I forgot my newest crush ? - Gloria! She falls for crazy eyes and helps her not be crazy! A nice , slow romance. Gloria invents an herbal remedy for Suzanne 's issues. That would be a hot couple. Not one inter racial couple? It is time. Notice how I'm turning everyone queer? ;]

06-20-2014, 10:47 AM	#5
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,605 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	Ew Let me clarify what I was trying to say about Healey. I should have been more clear with my wording. I think he is a sexist ass who thinks he's entitled to his rage. How many therapists do you know who would allow him to stay seated or continue on after calling them a c_ _t? End of session for me. I hate that he was Not dismissed immediately when he did that. Maybe they were trying to show the crap women have to deal with? Who would feel comfortable alone with a strange man who just called you that? Him picking a woman therapist felt gross to me too. We saw his anger around his wife , a few sessions about feelings with Pennsitucky does not fix a rage - aholic. I hope they don't think we are that dumb. So yeah , I see a ticking time bomb with no respect for women and want him to snap and go away.

06-20-2014, 01:34 PM	#6
imperfect_cupcake Senior Member How Do You Identify?: feminine dolly dyke Preferred Pronoun?: Your Grace Relationship Status: I put my own care first Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: In a gauze of mystery Posts: 1,776 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,426 Thanked 9,710 Times in 1,611 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	But... Isn't this following the book that was a real life experience of someone?

06-20-2014, 02:02 PM	#7
Dude Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Relationship Status: Perusing Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: exit 5 with an exit 21 goal Posts: 1,725 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 15,351 Thanked 10,605 Times in 1,477 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	There's an interview with the writer on Huffpost. Many things have been changed. She is actually back with Larry and has no contact with Alex. Who read the book? I've read it was eh so I'm not sure I want to.

06-20-2014, 02:08 PM	#8
ProfPacker Member How Do You Identify?: butch/MOC Preferred Pronoun?: Hy/hym/hys but in circumstances like work and some other places she Relationship Status: single Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: nj Posts: 1,365 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 7,023 Thanked 4,815 Times in 1,187 Posts Rep Power: 21474849	Yes, it is following the book I am half way through it. I heard Piper Kierman say that the creators did use creative license in that the real life Alex and Piper were never incacreated together, the real Piper says that there was no sexual activity that she engaged in. So, to answer your question, the bare bones of the story were there and then, we'll was developed into the show we are drawn to