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Old 01-27-2015, 07:19 PM   #1
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at the risk of sounding like my poverty was worse than your poverty...i will spare the details of my childhood, suffice to say that i know poverty...it may not have been "happy" times...but i thought the question was "what are your basic needs"


in times of hardship and poverty we depend on each other more and form closer bonds....meeting more emotional needs


the bonds formed during hard times...last a lifetime
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at the risk of sounding like my poverty was worse than your poverty...i will spare the details of my childhood, suffice to say that i know poverty...it may not have been "happy" times...but i thought the question was "what are your basic needs"


in times of hardship and poverty we depend on each other more and form closer bonds....meeting more emotional needs


the bonds formed during hard times...last a lifetime
My wife ran off with someone else because of the stress of that stretch poverty and the depression when her dad died. My best friend has just gone through two years of really hard poverty with her husband they fought more, almost got divorced and barely made it through because of the stress.

Cricket, if poverty has brought you closer together with your partner, I think that's great. and I promise I'm not trying to have a go at you. I like you, but please... can you please not assume your experience with poverty is like everyone's.

you did say "some say the days you live in poverty are the happiest of your life"

and now you are saying "it may not have been "happy" times"

then why aren't street people jolly? Why aren't people living in shelters absolutely full of joy and support for other humans?

I'm glad that being impoverished was once of the best times of your life. Really. But it's actually rather hurtful, at least to me, to hear that I should have been happy and bonding with people when what happened was that when I was that way, no one wanted to know. And I lost people.

That was my experience. I never, ever want to go there again. ever. that's why I did some dodgy things to get a plane ticket and come home, so I could at least be poor and a citizen, instead of in poverty, lonely and with no way out, and not a citizen.

Please, cricket. I'm not trying to be mean or compeditive. You are obviously a good person. but please stop telling me how poverty should feel or play out. Your experience is yours. And I'm glad it was a real positive for you.
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And perhaps I haven't been clear enough. I'm sorry if I haven't. It's not "what are your basic needs." But "what are your basic *to be happy* (or as gemme put it, "to thrive, not just exist") needs according to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, given that your needs in the bottom row have been met"

When you live in poverty, the bottom row of Maslow's pyramid is not met. I mean, beyond

"Air, food, water, clothing, shelter, sleep"

I mean how or what are the things that bring you the other levels:
How or what brings you a sense of Safety and security
How or what brings you a sense love and belonging
How or what brings you a sense Self esteem
How or what brings you a sense of Self actualisation

What does that for you? What are all the things or situations that bring that for you.

I apologise if it's been unclear. I did try with posting the link twice for people to click on to look at what I ment and try to explain a couple of times but I know I'm not the most articulate of people. I hope this is more clear to those I have have found me confusing.
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i too apologize for posting in a thread that is an obvious trigger for me...so ....i will gracefully decline commenting further
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I have a need to belong in my family
I have a need to know where I belong in life.
I have a need to feel like I'm not the only one dealing with the things I cope with daily.
I have a need for my friends to understand where I'm coming from when I speak
I have a need to be able to understand what I'm reading.....it sucks i have trouble with this.
I have a need to be more in control of my feelings, emotions, anger, love,etc.
I have a need to be more forgiving.
I have a desperate need to control my own thought processing, which is running amok almost daily and tends to interfere with reading and understanding what I've just read.
I have a need to get my ptsd and anxiety more under control.
I have a need to be heard, listened to, and have something done about it, not just leave me with my emotions and my heart in my lap holding them all alone.

I've been working on a lot of these with my therapist.
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