Feminism in News and Popular Media

[DapperButch]

I didn't know where to post this, I just knew I wanted to post this somewhere.


http://www.alternet.org/gender/what-...ed-man-twitter

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

I didn't know where to post this, I just knew I wanted to post this somewhere.


http://www.alternet.org/gender/what-...ed-man-twitter

This article is about male privilege and entitlement, misogyny and sexism. It is appropriate for the misogyny and sexism thread.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by Kobi

This article is about male privilege and entitlement, misogyny and sexism. It is appropriate for the misogyny and sexism thread.

Ummm, thanks.

Hopefully, it can still be appreciated here.

[*Anya*]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

I didn't know where to post this, I just knew I wanted to post this somewhere.


http://www.alternet.org/gender/what-...ed-man-twitter

Originally Posted by Kobi

This article is about male privilege and entitlement, misogyny and sexism. It is appropriate for the misogyny and sexism thread.

Originally Posted by DapperButch

Ummm, thanks.

Hopefully, it can still be appreciated here.

I actually do not think that it is out of place in either thread.

The following quote encompasses both:

"It turned out I hadn’t gone from woman to man, but from object to human.

I spent the week discussing systemic oppression and race. An intersectional feminist, I dove into rape culture. I talked about the need for police accountability, condemning domestic violence and amplifying other voices. It was almost always without interruption. My voice felt so unrestricted. How beautiful it felt to speak without fear of retribution. I felt such freedom."

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by *Anya*

I actually do not think that it is out of place in either thread.

The following quote encompasses both:

"It turned out I hadn’t gone from woman to man, but from object to human.

I spent the week discussing systemic oppression and race. An intersectional feminist, I dove into rape culture. I talked about the need for police accountability, condemning domestic violence and amplifying other voices. It was almost always without interruption. My voice felt so unrestricted. How beautiful it felt to speak without fear of retribution. I felt such freedom."

Thanks, Anya. My goal was to post it in the forum that the largest number of people who would be interested in it would read it. This thread gets a lot of readers.

It's interesting. I am wondering if my inclination to look for the feminism thread because the energy behind the article to me (and the energy I felt she was putting out...maybe because that was what I wanted to read in it) was her sense of power as a women (feminism), rather than her writing from a place of defeat (misogyny and sexism...but which of course the article is about).

This would all be unconscious, of course, but is interesting to think about.

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by DapperButch

Thanks, Anya. My goal was to post it in the forum that the largest number of people who would be interested in it would read it. This thread gets a lot of readers.

It's interesting. I am wondering if my inclination to look for the feminism thread because the energy behind the article to me (and the energy I felt she was putting out...maybe because that was what I wanted to read in it) was her sense of power as a women (feminism), rather than her writing from a place of defeat (misogyny and sexism...but which of course the article is about).

This would all be unconscious, of course, but is interesting to think about.

Different perspectives render different analysis.

To me, the gist of this article was how this woman discovered that when she "posed as a male" she had a totally different experience than that which she had as a woman.

Being perceived as a male, her opinion counted more, she was validated, she was heard and seen.

As a woman, her experience was to be ignored, insulted, dismissed, and devalued.

To me, this is sexism and misogyny in action. It is where perceived sex leads to a different experience and a different sense of importance.

Feminism is about women being empowered because they are women. It is about their presence, their opinions, their views are valuable simply because they are valued as a people within society.

The empowement this woman felt didnt come from being seen as and appreciated as a female. The empowerment came from being perceived as and validated as a male. Not the same thing.

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by Kobi

Different perspectives render different analysis.

To me, the gist of this article was how this woman discovered that when she "posed as a male" she had a totally different experience than that which she had as a woman.

Being perceived as a male, her opinion counted more, she was validated, she was heard and seen.

As a woman, her experience was to be ignored, insulted, dismissed, and devalued.

To me, this is sexism and misogyny in action. It is where perceived sex leads to a different experience and a different sense of importance.

Feminism is about women being empowered because they are women. It is about their presence, their opinions, their views are valuable simply because they are valued as a people within society.

The empowement this woman felt didnt come from being seen as and appreciated as a female. The empowerment came from being perceived as and validated as a male. Not the same thing.

I wasn't saying anything about what the article was about. It was clearly about misogyny and sexism. This is why I said "misogyny and sexism...which of course is what the article was about".

I was making comment on how I felt the woman viewed herself...that it didn't knock her down any.