Gulf Oil Slick

[AtLast]

Thinking about the whole chain reaction financially about Gulf coast people. You are a fishing company or charter business and there are the losses in income. Then, no checks from BP (or a fraction of what you are losing). As most of us do when maoney is tight, we stop services, don't buy anything that is non-essential. So, if you pay a gardener, you stop that service. He or she loses many of their customers. The local market you shop in begins to feel business slowing. You stop your cable or even internet. No more new clothes or going out to dinner or taking in a movie. Forget those home improvements you wanted to do. The folks that work in all related industries are affected in this chain. The company that cans your fish lays off workers. Boats are docked, employees laid off. Recreational and vacation businesses are seeing huge losses. On and on. And this in the midst of the biggest recession for decades and after hurricanes that the recovery for haver not been fully reached! So, when it hits more state bays and beach areas.....

Now.... look at the goods and services that depend on the goods and services of the gulf fare in this that are not even in the Gulf!

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Wow, I totally missed that. He's being criticized for consulting with experts? I really do live in the land of the truly stupid, don't I?

And the latest attack from Faux News Whack-Winger Wagon comes after he made the kick in the ass comment... its un-presidential, and street talk (really love that one, some racism in that one?). Prior to this, they were all over him about not emoting about it. Hummm... I guess Bush's massacre of the English language as in misunderestimated and I am the decider are presidential?

Again, I have my own criticisms of him about some things, but, I] forfucksakes!

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

And the latest attack from Faux News Whack-Winger Wagon comes after he made the kick in the ass comment... its un-presidential, and street talk (really love that one, some racism in that one?). Prior to this, they were all over him about not emoting about it. Hummm... I guess Bush's massacre of the English language as in misunderestimated and I am the decider are presidential?

Again, I have my own criticisms of him about some things, but, I] forfucksakes!

Oh, it's happening at Faux Newz. That's to be expected - they're just manipulative idiots. I thought that you were referring to, you know, actual news stuff (though I have to use the term loosely these days) from actual news places or from people who actually think and stuff. Even the racism is to be expected.

[NJFemmie]

I used to work in a maritime related field - Exxon, BP and most of the other oil companies were in my membership. From the sidelines, I couldn't begin to tell you about the frustration in watching them get away with the things they did ... corruption in this field doesn't begin to describe it.

Exxon was supposed to pay the locals for their losses, and managed to skirt around it. They didn't pay close to what they were supposed to ... after twenty years of appeals, they ended up paying a little more than the cost of 'cleanup'. It's outrageous. And Alaska still suffers from the spill - twenty years later - and that spill wasn't as big as this one.

Ugh.

[MsDemeanor]

Doonesbury is a "must read" today.....linkyloo

[violaine]

http://www.justnews.com/news/23849897/detail.html

[betenoire]

I thought this was pretty funny. And sometimes you need that.

[Sabine Gallais]

Well, the BP disaster has showed us one very important thing. Our latest president is bought and paid for just like the rest before him. He's an insider. They all are (were) Thing is, this time they went a little too far and oversold this guy. Now we can't put the genie back in the bottle. Suddenly both sides have come to the conclusion that they've been jerked around wildly and for far too long. The old Left/Right paradigm is dead on arrival. If you weren’t able to see how the revolving door in politics between government and corporations is methodically killing everything in its path, while the MSM pretends not to be complicit while they themselves methodically distract people from this fact in return for money (payoffs), then you’ll get the message when you figure out that this oil volcano is too huge for containment. The carnage to this country will be legendary. Oh, and BP knew this was going to happen.

This message brought to you by an Independent.

[Soon]

[waxnrope]

Originally Posted by HowSoonIsNow

certainly captured the polarization of this country ...
thanks for that HSIN!

[MsDemeanor]

It totally captures the hypocrisy of the right...

[Andrew, Jr.]

The Coast Guard is requiring BP to midnight tonight to come up with a plan. Good luck with that one.

President Obama is meeting with the higer ups of BP and then having an 8pm Live TV news conference about the oil slick on Wed.

I think we all are going to be eating farm raised seafood in our future.

Andrew

[AtLast]

And Standard Oil had a spill in Utah this weekend!

Official: Oil spill hasn't reached Great Salt Lake

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/13/AR2010061302595.html


First estimates given were in the 400-500 gallon range.... but, now it looks like 21000! Sound familiar?

[Toughy]

500 barrels (42 gallons per barrel)............that shit happens all the time.......all the time.......it just never makes the news.....

It's only making the news because it makes folks watch CNN, Fake News, etc.........I promise if BP and the Gulf were not in the news no one.........no one........would even know this happened.....

[Sabine Gallais]

Why have we turned down offers from the Dutch to come over and suck up the oil so that it wouldn’t have had to turn into an ecological holocaust? Three days after BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling platform exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, the Netherlands offered to help. Ships could have set about clearing the oil using Dutch sweeping arms, but the US government didn’t take up the offer. Why?

Why are we ignoring the fact that dispersant merely acted to submerge the oil creating giant underwater plumes stretching for miles and making clean up impossible? And why is the media ignoring that BP was allowed to run the show (literally a show) and manipulate the public as to how much oil was actually coming out of that pipe? (And, STILL does as a matter of fact.) First it was 5,000 and now it’s 50,000 barrels per day. Who knows? Let's have a press conference!

[Corkey]

Originally Posted by Sabine Gallais

Why have we turned down offers from the Dutch to come over and suck up the oil so that it wouldn’t have had to turn into an ecological holocaust? Three days after BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling platform exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, the Netherlands offered to help. Ships could have set about clearing the oil using Dutch sweeping arms, but the US government didn’t take up the offer. Why?

Why are we ignoring the fact that dispersant merely acted to submerge the oil creating giant underwater plumes stretching for miles and making clean up impossible? And why is the media ignoring that BP was allowed to run the show (literally a show) and manipulate the public as to how much oil was actually coming out of that pipe? (And, STILL does as a matter of fact.) First it was 5,000 and now it’s 50,000 barrels per day. Who knows? Let's have a press conference!

It could be that the Dutch were turned down due to ownership rights, cause ya' know BP is only sucking up the oil so it can be sold by them to us. It could be that the US government isn't in the business of oil reclamation, and as such has limited resources as a military operation to do anything to help. It could be many things, thing is you are asking the wrong people WHY any of this is in our ability to answer. Try your representative who probably takes big oil pac dollars, or your Senator, who's pockets are lined with big oils dollars. We the people have no friggen clue WHY.

[Glenn]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but:
Mar. 17,2010
BP CEO Hayward sells 223,288 shares.
April 12,2010
Halliburton pays 232 million after spill to company "Boots&Coots"
This month
SEC investigating shorts placed on TransOcean stocks days before explosion.
Today
Folks are getting arrested for taking pictures, and reporters are prevented from doing their jobs...OUTRAGED!

[theoddz]

I'm wondering when it's going to be announced that gas prices are going to go up, due to the spill in the Gulf.

That would, quite simply, be the garnish for this whole entire shit sandwich.

~Theo~

[Toughy]

BP refused the Dutch offer of help. The US government did not refuse help. BP is in charge not the government.

Some parts of the mainstream media are ignoring the plumes. Rachel Maddow (for one) has not been ignoring the plumes or the horrific response to maintaining and replacing the various types of booms BP keeps proudly telling you how much boom they have laid out. Putting boom in the water and then walking away is not a response.

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Gas has dropped about 11 cents a gallon since oil began spewing out of the well head.

Gas prices normally go up in the summer and prior to this disaster was going up. Now prices have dropped.

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popcorn....

msdemeanor address the stock issue in a previous post in this thread There is nothing going on about that.

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this post was brought to you by an independent also...........since CA passed the stupidest open primary law anywhere it matters not what political party you belong to.......

[AtLast]

Originally Posted by Toughy

BP refused the Dutch offer of help. The US government did not refuse help. BP is in charge not the government.

Some parts of the mainstream media are ignoring the plumes. Rachel Maddow (for one) has not been ignoring the plumes or the horrific response to maintaining and replacing the various types of booms BP keeps proudly telling you how much boom they have laid out. Putting boom in the water and then walking away is not a response.

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Gas has dropped about 11 cents a gallon since oil began spewing out of the well head.

Gas prices normally go up in the summer and prior to this disaster was going up. Now prices have dropped.

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popcorn....

msdemeanor address the stock issue in a previous post in this thread There is nothing going on about that.

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this post was brought to you by an independent also...........since CA passed the stupidest open primary law anywhere it matters not what political party you belong to.......

And I wonder what Obama will be saying about who is in charge tomorrow night? The only person that appears to me like he has a realistic take on things is Thad Allen. Realistic does include the gravity and idiocy in the whole situation.

Maddow's coverage has been super with getting the plume message out. And those puppies really bother me.

The gas prices are interesting, what's up with this? I don't fill up very much, have no idea what gas prices have been doing.

Yanno, I'm just not concerned about BP's stock prices in terms of British retirees or shareholoders. However, my guess is that from the start, BP's financial analysts have been working on the bankruptcy rationale they will be filing. They are going to get out of the cost of clean-up, re-organize and come back and drill in the Gulf. I just don't believe they will and the brunt of the costs will come right from our pockets. This escrow fund being talked about in the Congress is bogus political posturing.

Hummmm... our new CA open primary legislation .... I voted no, but to be honest, I am not entirely against open primaries. I am registered as decline to state, anyway.