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11-22-2009, 06:27 PM
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I truly appreciate all the reps I'm getting. Instead of repping me........why not post what you said to me in this thread.
-------- Thanks to the Admins for stepping up and addressing this. I look forward to the new thread and discussion and seeing how the TOS will address this. |
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11-22-2009, 06:53 PM
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Jack and Medusa,
Thank you. I know I struggle with oral and written communication. I know what I say comes out wrong or strangley sometimes. But I do appreciate what you are doing here. Thank you from my heart and soul. I don't feel alone anymore. I feel like I have a family again. When you are a shut-in, and have little to no bf community, you have no idea of how lonely it gets. Love, Andrew |
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11-22-2009, 07:14 PM
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all i can say .after reading all these response's is..
WOW!! this was just so suppose to be just a lil funny thing to post... its been posted in a lot of bf places.. and this is the 1st time. it has goten soo many negitive reviews........ i am sooooo sorry it offended some of you..... i say some cause some did find it funny and some didnt sometimes i feel i cant win for losing....... 
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11-22-2009, 07:15 PM
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Last edited by Legendryder; 11-22-2009 at 07:16 PM. Reason: Advanced brain melt |
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11-22-2009, 07:57 PM
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We aren't taking you to task, I promise. We just would really appreciate it if you would look at what you posted with a critical eye. A joke like that isn't harmless, especially when it goes viral, and is seen by thousands of people, many of whom will not be viewing it with good intentions at all. Sexism is so well entrenched in our society that most of us just take its many manifestations for granted. For example, advertising utilizes sexist imagery constantly, which reinforces the idea of women as second class citizens. We all have helped perpetuate this notion at some point, therefore the responsibility belongs to all of us to help dismantle it. |
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11-22-2009, 08:09 PM
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AGAIN.....
I AM .. sorry ....... for offending .... some of you... i say ... SOME...... cause some found it funny.... i did think it was kinda funny ......... maybe i have a wierd sense of humor i dont know....... i guess i need to get approval to post other funny video's........ here is a link......... of something else..... I and some others thought was funny. but i suppose it might offend someone as well. http://www.butchfemmeplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245 ya know..... i have said i was sorry and thats the end.,,zippin it
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11-22-2009, 08:28 PM
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All I can suggest is kill this thread. Before it gets TOTALLY out of hand.
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11-22-2009, 08:37 PM
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I think this thread can be useful as a learning aid regarding all manner of important issues as well as examining social behavior versus antisocial behavior.
Morningstar, no one has asked for an apology. We're asking that you take a look at why you found this particular image funny and why others do not. Dig a little deeper. This is not a question of taste. It's a question of perpetuating a deep seated prejudice against women via supposedly "harmless" means. |
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11-22-2009, 08:32 PM
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It's all about learning and growing together. We are a large and very proud community. And many are wounded, and trying to seek refuge from that which hurts us out and about in the real world. And also, this connection to community, for many of us, is what we have right now. I live in a very rural place. (NO COMMUNITY HERE in my neck of the woods!! LOL!!) I just hate to see anyone hurting, and that includes you. Just try and let it go perhaps - you didn't see any harm in this and now others have explained "why 'tis so" for them. People's expressions are not always directed at someone sharing about something, but rather the source and reasoning being it. So, all in all, I should "thank you" for posting the link. Good lesson for a new baby site! Right? Now I will open up your other "funny link", and I may laugh! Who knows? Consider where and what to share publicly, I try and think to myself. But, we don't know what we don't know, until we "know it". Ya know?! And yes, I have "knee-jerked" on the internet myself on occasion. Guilty. It's going to happen, for we are HUMAN. SMILE... WILDCAT |
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11-22-2009, 08:47 PM
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I am completely outraged!
I cannot believe that after Morningstar ( yes a lovely member of OUR community ) apologized TWICE for posting something SOME people find offensive that she was still beat up over it. So it becomes a free for all? Lets all pretend to be therapists and *counsel* the poster. WTF !!!!! Must be nice to live in glass houses. I see LOTS of things done in the name of humor that are offensive, IMO. Hell Wanda Sykes offended the hell out of me last night, I didn't beat her up because it was not funny IN MY OPINION. Some people probably thought she was hilarious. I see LOTS of posts that I find offensive on ALL of the BF sites.. so I skip over them. I don't beat up the person who posted it! If its "not my cup of tea" I skip over it and I do LOTS of skipping. Seeing that causes rape and sexual abuse? WTF is that about? I assure you that seeing that video does not *turn* someone into a rapist. Morningstar I am very sorry this happened to you and I do believe if you were one of the *cool kids * this would NOT have happened to you. Please don't stop trying to bring lighthearted humor to us. I find you a breath of fresh air among those of us that are wound up just too goddamn tight |
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11-22-2009, 09:03 PM
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Let's not escalate this experience to "outrage" or an insistence that "seeing that causes rape" (because that is NOT what was said at ALL.) It should be seen as an act of respect and love that people who felt offended were willing to tell Morningstar how they felt without anger, malice, or holier-than-thou. I see people wanting to connect here - extending a hand to say "Help me understand you". THAT is powerful. We will also not be "skipping over" sexism on this site. We will be working together as a community to combat it. I also want to comment on this "cool kids" thing. Morningstar IS a "cool kid" in my book. She is a funny, thoughtful, warm person and I dont think we are doing her any service by implying that she is not just as valid or important as everyone else on this site. We are NOT NOT NOT going to start building this high-school club in our heads where people start insisting that anyone who doesnt agree with them is a "cool kid" and thus, immune from being asked to explain themselves. Every single person on this site is fucking awesome, there isnt a single person here who is better than or worth more than anyone else BUT if we say something that someone is finding offensive, then we should ALL be willing to answer for why we said it. Myself included. We all make mistakes. I think pretty highly of anyone who is willing to say "Hey, my bad" and take the chance to learn from that experience. I also want to make sure that I am clear when I say that nobody asked Morningstar to apologize for anything, they asked her to explain why she felt it was funny. There is a HUGE difference there. Asking for an apology says, "Hey, you OWE me something" and asking for an explanation says, "I respect you and want to hear what you have to say". |
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11-22-2009, 09:09 PM
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oh bother.
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11-22-2009, 09:23 PM
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Medusa, this was very well said. I want to thank you. As someone who has had that "cool kid" epitaph used against me as a way of marginalizing me, thank you a thousand times for addressing that. Just because someone posts a lot or has an opinion that others agree with does not make them a "cool kid". It makes them someone who expresses themselves verbally. I could go on about this subject and bare a lot of my soul, but right now I am not feeling safe because of this comment--so I won't. Why is it that in an effort to protect (and does Barb need protection?) someone, we have to attack others. 
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