General Butch Appreciation Thread

[DapperButch]

Originally Posted by girl_dee

i may or may not have ordered this.

I may or may not have, as well.

I have no idea what I am going to do with it.

But, it seemed important to buy.

[Femmadian]

Loving all the posts so far, everyone! Great stuff!

[Femmadian]

"She brought me crotchless panties and untied the bows like I was a present that had been wrapped just for her, and before I melted into mindless throbbing waves of orgasm I had a political epiphany: Women who decried being objectified had never had the opportunity to feel like this."

Carol Queen, "Why I Love Butch Women"

[Femmadian]

"I was a baby butch who had never heard the word and so didn't know what to call myself until I first heard that word out loud in 1992 in the back stacks of Little Sister's bookstore. I wore second-hand army boots three sizes too big and cut my own hair with clippers and met what I didn't know at the time was my first femme lover and bought my first necktie and she called me handsome and that one word handsome made up for two decades of knowing I was never really all that pretty."

Ivan Coyote, "Tomboy Survival Guide"

[Bèsame*]

I appreciate the choice of accessories that a butch wears for certain opportunities.

[Mel C.]

Originally Posted by Bèsame*

I appreciate the choice of accessories that a butch wears for certain opportunities.

I don't suppose details are forthcoming...

[girl_dee]

One thing I appreciate about butches is how they carry their visibility. I envy them and i don’t.

[Runner]

Originally Posted by clay

Awwww...thank you girl_dee
Really appreciate this!!

Originally Posted by clay

Thanks, my beautiful friend, Femmadian! for your butch love!!

Thanks to all the wonderful posts here....much love felt!

Ah c'mon not all comments can be taken as a direct compliment to all butches.

Loving this thread but respect must be deserved, it's not a given for all.

[Chained Daisy]

Originally Posted by Runner

Ah c'mon not all comments can be taken as a direct compliment to all butches.

Loving this thread but respect must be deserved, it's not a given for all.

Runner I think this comment is very mean spirited.

This is the `General Butch Appreciation` thread so yes I do believe posts can be taken and are indeed meant to be taken as a compliment to all Butches, so long as the Butch reading it feels it fits comfortably with their own particular brand/fit of being on the Butch spectrum.

I give due respect to people until they prove they are not worthy of it. Given your comment I would say on this topic you would fall into that category.

I fall to see why you take issue with someone who is gracious enough to thank some of the posts on here.

Please fell free to DM if you wish to discuss this further as I do not want to derail this thread.

Daisy.

[Kätzchen]

[Femmadian]

Originally Posted by Chained Daisy

Runner I think this comment is very mean spirited.

This is the `General Butch Appreciation` thread so yes I do believe posts can be taken and are indeed meant to be taken as a compliment to all Butches, so long as the Butch reading it feels it fits comfortably with their own particular brand/fit of being on the Butch spectrum.

<snip>

Indeed.

I'm not sure where the whole "earning respect" comment came from, but I think such sentiments are unnecessary and do not add to the overall aim of the thread.

For clarification purposes, I started this thread as a way to show a general appreciation for all butches (yes, all) and to have a place to inject a bit of butch/femme specificity and also positivity into this space. If someone sees themselves or a loved one in one of the posts, that's great! That's what it's here for. If not, no problem, but if that's the case, then there are other threads to choose from. I do not appreciate the snark directed at other thread participants.

If we could keep things on topic and not make it personal, that would be lovely.

Thanks!

[Kätzchen]

[Femmadian]

I believe this is from Carol A. Queen's "Strangers at Home". Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.



Love you, changelings. 💗

[Femmadian]

[Kätzchen]

[JDeere]

Originally Posted by Femmadian

Indeed.

I'm not sure where the whole "earning respect" comment came from, but I think such sentiments are unnecessary and do not add to the overall aim of the thread.

For clarification purposes, I started this thread as a way to show a general appreciation for all butches (yes, all) and to have a place to inject a bit of butch/femme specificity and also positivity into this space. If someone sees themselves or a loved one in one of the posts, that's great! That's what it's here for. If not, no problem, but if that's the case, then there are other threads to choose from. I do not appreciate the snark directed at other thread participants.

If we could keep things on topic and not make it personal, that would be lovely.

Thanks!

You say ALL butches but so far have not seen one post about male ided butches! Its been about the female aspect ever since the thread started.

[Wrang1er]

Originally Posted by JDeere

You say ALL butches but so far have not seen one post about male ided butches! Its been about the female aspect ever since the thread started.

Perhaps you should take it upon yourself to post one, JDeere.

Butches are like ice cream. We come in all flavors.

[Femmadian]

JDeere,

This is the second post you've made in this thread to this effect. You haven't actually posted anything yourself, nor (from what I can see) have you even so much as thanked any of the other contributing posters in this conversation for what they've brought to the table. So far, all I've seen you do is criticize.

But... not all criticism is without merit.

So I went back and counted all of the posts so far in this thread that were of butch-appreciating content to actually check your claim, as I like to think of myself as a fair minded person and wanted to see how the numbers shook out.

Literally half of the posts don't even mention a gender. Half. A whole 11 out of the 22 posts so far do not mention feminine pronouns or refer to a butch as specifically a woman.

Furthermore, several of the quotes here are by rather well known trans and non-binary butches. Ivan Coyote identifies as trans and non-binary. S. Bear Bergman is an out and proud trans man married to another out and proud trans man. And Leslie Feinberg... well, there shouldn't even be a need for an introduction.

If you cannot see that this thread is on the whole inclusive of butches of all stripes, then I don't know what to tell you.

So, if you still cannot see your particular flavour of butch represented here, that's not my or anyone else's problem. You either need to post something productive in keeping with the original guidelines of the thread which does represent what you want to see, or you need to stop derailing it.

If you are so aggrieved to see people expressing appreciation for butches which aren't 100% exactly like yourself and if you're not going to further this thread, then, frankly, I would respectfully ask you to bow out.

I'm not going to discuss this again.

[Femmadian]

Made ya look.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by Femmadian

JDeere,

This is the second post you've made in this thread to this effect. You haven't actually posted anything yourself, nor (from what I can see) have you even so much as thanked any of the other contributing posters in this conversation for what they've brought to the table. So far, all I've seen you do is criticize.

But... not all criticism is without merit.

So I went back and counted all of the posts so far in this thread that were of butch-appreciating content to actually check your claim, as I like to think of myself as a fair minded person and wanted to see how the numbers shook out.

Literally half of the posts don't even mention a gender. Half. A whole 11 out of the 22 posts so far do not mention feminine pronouns or refer to a butch as specifically a woman.

Furthermore, several of the quotes here are by rather well known trans and non-binary butches. Ivan Coyote identifies as trans and non-binary. S. Bear Bergman is an out and proud trans man married to another out and proud trans man. And Leslie Feinberg... well, there shouldn't even be a need for an introduction.

If you cannot see that this thread is on the whole inclusive of butches of all stripes, then I don't know what to tell you.

So, if you still cannot see your particular flavour of butch represented here, that's not my or anyone else's problem. You either need to post something productive in keeping with the original guidelines of the thread which does represent what you want to see, or you need to stop derailing it.

If you are so aggrieved to see people expressing appreciation for butches which aren't 100% exactly like yourself and if you're not going to further this thread, then, frankly, I would respectfully ask you to bow out.

I'm not going to discuss this again.

Hell to the yeah.