Politics-What's on your mind?

[nhplowboi]

One more thought....I think your reckless actions have sealed your fate for 2020.

[Orema]

Originally Posted by nhplowboi

One more thought....I think your reckless actions have sealed your fate for 2020.

It may help him get re-elected.

[nhplowboi]

Boy Orema, I don't think so. I think we are warred out and starting another one is a huge error on his part.

[~ocean]

Originally Posted by Orema

It may help him get re-elected.

only the stock market would benefit ~ his shady friends ~ hopefully the American public is smart enough NOT to reelect that evil orange buzzard. The foresight of Nostradamus is proving to be true. Nostradamus Predictions for 2020 << excellent facts . How did he know ?

[cathexis]

Originally Posted by nhplowboi

There ya go Donnie....I think your bluff has been called at the expense of our military, you POS. Oh and the missing TU from POS is NOT a misspelling.

Originally Posted by Orema

It may help him get re-elected.

Ha, even his base will eventually start to doubt his objects and that means beginning with their womynfolk. Feminists need to be right there providing alternatives, information, and explanations.

TG there are organizers and leaders. My hat's off to them. I could never get into running for any party leadership. Not that socially diplomatic with POS, though some leftists can do it. They deserve their choice of the bust of Marx, Goldman, or Che Guevara.

We need folks more out in the street, up in peoples' grills, fire-bombing empty recruitment stations to "Set It Off." I'll keep doing what I do best, put me in a locked (or not) and give us whatever research is needed current or past. That will be the lion's share. I will carry an M-16 and sharp boot knife just in case of alt-right marauders (or any right-wings) all to be used for quick dispatch.

Careful and accurate handling of a long range rifle does not exceed my skill set, though.

[charley]

Originally Posted by cathexis

......... (snip)

We need more out in the street, up in peoples' grills, fire-bombing empty recruitment stations to "Set It Off." I'll keep doing what I do best, put me in a locked (or not) and give us whatever research is needed current or past. That will be the lion's share. I will carry an M-16 and sharp boot knife just in case of alt-right marauders (or any right-wings) all to be used for quick dispatch.

Are you serious????

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by cathexis

We need folks more out in the street, up in peoples' grills, fire-bombing empty recruitment stations to "Set It Off." I'll keep doing what I do best, put me in a locked (or not) and give us whatever research is needed current or past. That will be the lion's share. I will carry an M-16 and sharp boot knife just in case of alt-right marauders (or any right-wings) all to be used for quick dispatch.

Careful and accurate handling of a long range rifle does not exceed my skill set, though.

I so hope and pray that we do not get to that point!

[dark_crystal]

Originally Posted by Orema

It may help him get re-elected.

I agree with you. The Evangelicals want a nuclear first strike on Iran and they have been wanting that for decades. They see this as a step in the right direction. This will help him

[Orema]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

I agree with you. The Evangelicals want a nuclear first strike on Iran and they have been wanting that for decades. They see this as a step in the right direction. This will help him

And the Evangelicals aren't the only ones wanting to hit Iran.

I think, at best, Trump will get more votes. At worst, he's solidified the votes he's already received.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by Orema

And the Evangelicals aren't the only ones wanting to hit Iran.

I think, at best, Trump will get more votes. At worst, he's solidified the votes he's already received.

I'm not sure why Americans feel they have a right to attack Iran. If they got out of the Middle East, removed their troops, nobody would be attacking them. If it's a question of protecting "interests", negotiate those fairly and with consideration of the rights of other countries and nations. Maybe we get peace that way", when the concept of "winning, winning" gives way to cooperative fairness. I don't see how we survive otherwise.

Also, can anyone really imagine the USA sitting on a boiling, angry Muslim world forever? It's absurd and stupid. Seems to me they ought to be trying to work it all out, as the small eruptions occur, because the large uncontainable eruption is sure to occur, sooner or later ( and that later eruption just might destroy my childrens' and grandchildrens' lives.

Religion, religion, religion...far as i can understand, no reason to think Christianity is in any way superior to any other religion nor is being "White' in any way superior to any other skin colour or culture but I do believe this is the combo-crossover rationale for grabbing everything. ie: if you're a Christian, we'll work out a way for you to keep your shit, otherwise.........

[GeorgiaMa'am]

Originally Posted by dark_crystal

. . . The Evangelicals want a nuclear first strike on Iran and they have been wanting that for decades. They see this as a step in the right direction. . .

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

I'm not sure why Americans feel they have a right to attack Iran . . .

Also, can anyone really imagine the USA sitting on a boiling, angry Muslim world forever? . . . and that later eruption just might destroy my childrens' and grandchildrens' lives.

Religion, religion, religion...far as i can understand, no reason to think Christianity is in any way superior to any other religion nor is being "White' in any way superior to any other skin colour or culture but I do believe this is the combo-crossover rationale for grabbing everything. ie: if you're a Christian, we'll work out a way for you to keep your shit, otherwise.........

As I recall from my youthful days as a fundamentalist evangelical, they think they not only have a right to attack anywhere in the Middle East, they think it is prophesied in the "End Times". They believe the Middle East will end up in control of the world, and the USA will not be "sitting on a boiling, angry Muslim world"; the USA will lose. The fundamentalist Christians believe anything they can do to help this along is not only their right, it is the word of God. Their rationale is not "grabbing everything"; it's to hurry up the Rapture. And obviously, whatever any other religion/culture believes doesn't matter to these people. They deeply believe it's a foregone conclusion.

As I said, my exposure to these beliefs was in my youth, so my memory may be faulty on the exact details. Anyone who knows "what fundamentalists believe" - (heh) - is welcome to jump in and correct me.

[kittygrrl]

Doesn't it say in the Christian Bible "the meek shall inherit the earth"? Wishing or encouraging for Atomic bombs to or for another country doesn't seem "meek" to me..Also,
hurrying the rapture seems counterproductive if you are busy trying to learn godliness..that can take a lifetime.......or more. Personally, if (godliness) is my goal, i'd like as much time as possible to work on it.

[C0LLETTE]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaMa'am

As I recall from my youthful days as a fundamentalist evangelical, they think they not only have a right to attack anywhere in the Middle East, they think it is prophesied in the "End Times". They believe the Middle East will end up in control of the world, and the USA will not be "sitting on a boiling, angry Muslim world"; the USA will lose. The fundamentalist Christians believe anything they can do to help this along is not only their right, it is the word of God. Their rationale is not "grabbing everything"; it's to hurry up the Rapture. And obviously, whatever any other religion/culture believes doesn't matter to these people. They deeply believe it's a foregone conclusion.

As I said, my exposure to these beliefs was in my youth, so my memory may be faulty on the exact details. Anyone who knows "what fundamentalists believe" - (heh) - is welcome to jump in and correct me.

I shouldn't have given the impression I was referring only to "evangelicals". I was referring to American global policy ( which is "white-Christian" centric ) in general. Middle east is just the best current example.

[cathexis]

Originally Posted by cathexis

Ha, even his base will eventually start to doubt his objects and that means beginning with their womynfolk. Feminists need to be right there providing alternatives, information, and explanations.

TG there are organizers and leaders. My hat's off to them. I could never get into running for any party leadership. Not that socially diplomatic with POS, though some leftists can do it. They deserve their choice of the bust of Marx, Goldman, or Che Guevara.

We need folks more out in the street, up in peoples' grills, fire-bombing empty recruitment stations to "Set It Off." I'll keep doing what I do best, put me in a locked (or not) and give us whatever research is needed current or past. That will be the lion's share. I will carry an M-16 and sharp boot knife just in case of alt-right marauders (or any right-wings) all to be used for quick dispatch.

Careful and accurate handling of a long range rifle does not exceed my skill set, though.

Originally Posted by charley

Are you serious????

Originally Posted by Apocalipstic

I so hope and pray that we do not get to that point!

Originally Posted by C0LLETTE

I'm not sure why Americans feel they have a right to attack Iran. If they got out of the Middle East, removed their troops, nobody would be attacking them. If it's a question of protecting "interests", negotiate those fairly and with consideration of the rights of other countries and nations. Maybe we get peace that way", when the concept of "winning, winning" gives way to cooperative fairness. I don't see how we survive otherwise.

Also, can anyone really imagine the USA sitting on a boiling, angry Muslim world forever? It's absurd and stupid. Seems to me they ought to be trying to work it all out, as the small eruptions occur, because the large uncontainable eruption is sure to occur, sooner or later ( and that later eruption just might destroy my childrens' and grandchildrens' lives.

Religion, religion, religion...far as i can understand, no reason to think Christianity is in any way superior to any other religion nor is being "White' in any way superior to any other skin colour or culture but I do believe this is the combo-crossover rationale for grabbing everything. ie: if you're a Christian, we'll work out a way for you to keep your shit, otherwise.........

Religion has long been an excuse for attacking other cultures. I prefer the rational approach to life without religious belief and the wars that ensue.

Yes, I dead seriously want a revolution and believe that the US is as ready as it's ever been. The country is angry, polarized, and could very well ignite into civil war. Instead of internal conflict, the anger needs to be redirected to revolution against this regime which is why some adept organizers need to emerge. With the assistance of other socialist countries, the angst should be directed toward socialism.

Indeed, I would take up arms for the revolution I've been waiting for most of my life. Having become a socialist in my early teens after beginning a course of study in the history of the USSR and Marxism which is ongoing.
It is, IMHO, the only reasonable course of action. We need social and economic justice for all of the disenfranchised poor who deal with the
disparity on a daily basis.

Billionaires running to be the Democratic nominee, how absurd can it get?

[charley]

Originally Posted by cathexis

.... snip...

Indeed, I would take up arms for the revolution I've been waiting for most of my life.

snip...

Fantasy to have lived during the time of the Weathermen... and been a part of their group. Wait a minute... reality check! They failed. I think I saw that on TV. Waste of energy.

[Orema]

Originally Posted by ~ocean

only the stock market would benefit ~ his shady friends ~ hopefully the American public is smart enough NOT to reelect that evil orange buzzard. The foresight of Nostradamus is proving to be true. Nostradamus Predictions for 2020 << excellent facts . How did he know ?

I should have been more clear. I wasn’t writing that going to war would get hm re-elected, though I think it may. What I was referencing was...

Originally Posted by nhplowboi

One more thought....I think your reckless actions have sealed your fate for 2020.

His reckless actions of killing Soleimani (which was preceded by another reckless action by Trump exiting the Iran deal Obama made) will help get him relected whether or not we go to war.

As usual, Trump wants to 1-up Obama. He dismantled a deal Obama made only to try and renegotiate the same deal. And it helps that one of Iran’s strong men died in the process.

I don’t think Iran will deal with him. But either way, I see this as getting him more votes.