Sexual Images of Children in the Media: Promoting Pedophilia?

[julieisafemme]

I am simply trying to make the point that queers are blamed and labeled as pedophiles by straight culture. I was making no comments about queer parents at all.

This is too personal an issue for me and I am not communicating clearly. I apologize for that. I still maintain that pedophiles do not need sexual images of children to promote their behavior. That does not mean in any way that I agree with or condone of the sexualization of children in media or in any other way. I just want children to stop being hurt.

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Um what does queer have to do with the hyper sexualization of our children?

I will be honest none of the queer parents I know, dress their kids provocatively, and I am not saying there aren't queers that do. You don't think that some young kid who has these thoughts about kids isn't going to use these add as a stepping stone to worse images?

really?

I know they are born this way but when they have nothing to get a hold of, magazines, catalogs and a walk in the park become their erotic images. I know for me, nothing could make me accept any of the add put up in this
thread.

It's disgusting and gross that our children are pimped out for the sake of Brand Name clothing...

If I was filthy rich I wouldn't do that to my kids I made sure when with me my kids were kids, not tiny Guess ads.

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by julieisafemme

I am simply trying to make the point that queers are blamed and labeled as pedophiles by straight culture. I was making no comments about queer parents at all.

This is too personal an issue for me and I am not communicating clearly. I apologize for that. I still maintain that pedophiles do not need sexual images of children to promote their behavior. That does not mean in any way that I agree with or condone of the sexualization of children in media or in any other way. I just want children to stop being hurt.

My disgusting uncle used the Sears catalog to wack his shit to. Girls section.

Just sayin'

[PinkieLee]

I have a good friend of mine that signed her 6 year old daughter up for dance classes this year for the very first time. After just a few short months, she decided to take her daughter out of the classes... all because of the clothing that she was wearing.

She said that the instructors had uniforms for the girls to wear in class (of course, the short booty shorts). Within a few weeks, those lil' black booty shorts, that all the girls were wearing, was the ONLY thing that her daughter wanted to wear...to school and around the house. She would put longer shorts on her, and she would pull the damn things up to her chest, to make them short like the rest of the girls. It became a constant battle every day...her 6 year old was throwing a fit because she wasn't gonna be dressed like all of her friends.

She questioned some of the other mothers & dance instructors about it, and they acted like it was no big deal. But, she had a major problem with it, and was shocked that more people weren't cautious about how their kids were dressed or paraded around.

[SuperFemme]

Originally Posted by PinkieLee

I have a good friend of mine that signed her 6 year old daughter up for dance classes this year for the very first time. After just a few short months, she decided to take her daughter out of the classes... all because of the clothing that she was wearing.

She said that the instructors had uniforms for the girls to wear in class (of course, the short booty shorts). Within a few weeks, those lil' black booty shorts, that all the girls were wearing, was the ONLY thing that her daughter wanted to wear...to school and around the house. She would put longer shorts on her, and she would pull the damn things up to her chest, to make them short like the rest of the girls. It became a constant battle every day...her 6 year old was throwing a fit because she wasn't gonna be dressed like all of her friends.

She questioned some of the other mothers & dance instructors about it, and they acted like it was no big deal. But, she had a major problem with it, and was shocked that more people weren't cautious about how their kids were dressed or paraded around.

Good for her. One day her daughter will get it. I hope.

It seems that often times parents are so busy being their child's "Peer" that they give in to anything the kid wants. I am particularly bothered by teens whose Mommas dress like them and share all their personal info (like what happened on Mommas date, her sex life, etc.) with their kids. The lines get blurred and I stand to the side fascinated.

[betenoire]

Originally Posted by PinkieLee

And we can't forget Brooke Shields in Pretty Baby....

I have mixed feelings about that movie. Well, maybe not -mixed- feelings, but...here's the deal.

I like that movie. A lot. It's easily one of my favourites of all time. (Although I have to fast forward through the "selling her virginity" scene). I get why that movie squicks people out, I do. But I also think that movie is -very- different from the sexualisation of children via pageants and commercials and letting your kid wear knee-high platform boots.

Pageants, adverts, too grown-up clothing for children are all framed in a "this is okay, this is normal, this is acceptable" light. Pretty Baby, on the other hand, I think it's pretty clear that the people involved in making that movie made it from the perspective of "this shit happened and this shit is bad and had far-reaching impact on the people that this shit happened to". I don't feel like that movie in any way tried to frame the sexualisation of the character that Brooke Shields played as anything positive.

Now, what does concern me is how the adults in Brooke's life at the time framed things for her, or if they bothered to talk to her about it at all. I really have no idea. But I do hope that she had several sit-downs with an adult who explained to her that the things her character did or see are awful things for a little girl to do or see. I hope the grownups in her life checked in with her frequently to see how she was doing.

But I do think that vilifying a movie that depicts childhood prostitution and equating it with being pro-sexualisation-of-children is akin to insisting that a movie in which a rape or murder occurs is pro-rape or pro-murder. It's just not the same thing.

[Lady Pamela]

Originally Posted by julieisafemme

I am simply trying to make the point that queers are blamed and labeled as pedophiles by straight culture. I was making no comments about queer parents at all.

This is too personal an issue for me and I am not communicating clearly. I apologize for that. I still maintain that pedophiles do not need sexual images of children to promote their behavior. That does not mean in any way that I agree with or condone of the sexualization of children in media or in any other way. I just want children to stop being hurt.

Yes..I agree that sick minded people don't need anything to promote there sick twisted minds.

But..Do you not see how the media,
by allowing things to be broadcast..in a sexual tone,
To innocent children and young adults,
Is fueling the sick minds of these people who are dangerious?

And lets add to that,
Children wearing clothing that other adults put onto the market because it makes children look/feel older and sexy.
But they put it on the shelf for the almighty dollar.
Without any reguards to our babies.

This also " fuels " the already twisted minds ...and promotes reaction...whatever that be.


No it is not just the fault of the media or the cloths maker.
But they do fuel the flame without reguard to our childrens safety.
They will even tell you in promoting products that "Sex Sales".

As far as people who sale clothes like this,
Then there are those who fight for child safety but at the same , they sale this crap.
Those who sale them and are oblivious to this thought....thus needing an eye opener.
Or those who pass the buck..Blame it on the parents alone...And leave it all to them.
" Nothing wrong with putting the weight on the parents shoulders" Don't get me wrong...But where did human concern and decency go for mankind?

Out the door for the next buck!


One more thing then I will be quiet...{for a minute..lol}...I promise..

Someone brought up woman who got raped, and if she deserved it by what she chose to wear... etc.

Of course the woman never deserved it.
The mind of the person who raped was warped well before this woman was present.

BUT,
What you wear and the circumstances where you wear it... could entice that type of person to react on sick intentions.

I fought that fight in court and won...
My rapist was put behind 4 walls.

Was it my choice to wear tight jeans and a slightly reveaing shirt with heals....Sure

Was it my fault I got raped from wearing it?
No it was not...I did not give permission for that.

But could it have egnited something...Though...still not my fault...yes.

Oh and to tie em all togther...I was young and wearing things to entice older ppl..And it most definately did!

Also ..My mother was way against it by the way...
I would changed when I left...I was a rebel hell child.
So it is not always the mamma's fault either.


Just speaking from a me/my/mine point of view...
Not attacking anyones views here.

Nor directing this towards any one person.