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Old 07-17-2010, 11:41 AM   #1
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Unless I'm mistaken, I thought this thread was for people diagnosed with PTSD and trauma survival, not just an anxiety disorder.
And here I thought this was supposed to be a support of some sort to vent, share and help...diagnosis or not.

Some people don't have an official diagnosis of PTSD cuz not all drs recognize it as such...

And it seems like the list in the very beginning (OP) triggered some just reading it and recognizing themselves in it...as living with PTSD survivors...some of whom didn't even realize they had PTSD...amazing when you think about it...how some have lived their whole lives dealing with PTSD, anxiety, fear and the like without ever being "officially" diagnosed....

I want to send a hug to all of you who have had to deal with this without benefit of meds, diagnosis or support until now.

And I want to thank Apocalipstic for starting this thread because I look back and see so much growth and change in so many of us just from having this "safe" place.

God bless you all and I wish you much peace and success in your lives...

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Jet..Im sorry u feel this way.Over the years we all go through things and it afects us in diffrent ways,only when we are willing to really look into how we feel do we realise what we are dealing with and also why.In listining to others talk about what they go through do we come to grips with what is ging on that had bothered us for so long.I hope u have a good day and have contentment that the day is better than the last.
Today was better than yesterday for me,Last night I got out of the house for the first time to go out with friends and have some fun,my back blew out and I barely made it to the car to go home,this is part of why im stresed out cause of my fear of what will happen if and when it goes out..will I be able to get home or will someone step out of the box and give a stranger a hand in help.Its been along time since I have ventured out with the exception of the normal daily things I need to do...could I handle it when it happened cause I took a deep breath and did handle it..it didnt handle me.With the help of some meds with a good nights sleep today is way better,my friends and I went out today for several hours only this time I was better prepared to be out and deal with the day.I wore my shoes that have killer inserts to help my back,used my dam cane to help me along...anyway it was better cause of the help and info I receved from hear.Thank all of u for the helpful things that made my day better.
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Old 07-17-2010, 06:14 PM   #3
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Jet..Im sorry u feel this way.Over the years we all go through things and it afects us in diffrent ways,only when we are willing to really look into how we feel do we realise what we are dealing with and also why.In listining to others talk about what they go through do we come to grips with what is ging on that had bothered us for so long.I hope u have a good day and have contentment that the day is better than the last.
Today was better than yesterday for me,Last night I got out of the house for the first time to go out with friends and have some fun,my back blew out and I barely made it to the car to go home,this is part of why im stresed out cause of my fear of what will happen if and when it goes out..will I be able to get home or will someone step out of the box and give a stranger a hand in help.Its been along time since I have ventured out with the exception of the normal daily things I need to do...could I handle it when it happened cause I took a deep breath and did handle it..it didnt handle me.With the help of some meds with a good nights sleep today is way better,my friends and I went out today for several hours only this time I was better prepared to be out and deal with the day.I wore my shoes that have killer inserts to help my back,used my dam cane to help me along...anyway it was better cause of the help and info I receved from hear.Thank all of u for the helpful things that made my day better.
I don't feel any way...I'm trying to get a grip what this thread is about. Apparently I'm in the wrong to be posting here and I've wasted my time.
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And here I thought this was supposed to be a support of some sort to vent, share and help...diagnosis or not.

Some people don't have an official diagnosis of PTSD cuz not all drs recognize it as such...

And it seems like the list in the very beginning (OP) triggered some just reading it and recognizing themselves in it...as living with PTSD survivors...some of whom didn't even realize they had PTSD...amazing when you think about it...how some have lived their whole lives dealing with PTSD, anxiety, fear and the like without ever being "officially" diagnosed....

I want to send a hug to all of you who have had to deal with this without benefit of meds, diagnosis or support until now.

And I want to thank Apocalipstic for starting this thread because I look back and see so much growth and change in so many of us just from having this "safe" place.

God bless you all and I wish you much peace and success in your lives...

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UMMMMM...PTSD has a very close relationship with aniety disorders and phobias as well.

The DSM has five axes for many good reasons... mainly we are all pretty complex and PTSD is seated in a syndrome complex taking in many characteristics of various symtomology and disorders (although, I hate using the term disorder).

I give Apocalipstic many thanks, too! And, jet, have you given thought that it might just be you that is wasting other people's time? You might want to do a review of PTSD literature before making such rude remarks to people trying to give each other support.

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I have a diagnosis of PTSD...but I dont come in here until now. I understand the need to have a safe secure place to discuss our issues but the internet, especially a very public one such as this one, is not the safest forum. I hope Jet comes back and makes allowances for the amount of privacy one can have here...
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I want to make clear that I statrted the thread for anyone who wanted to duscuss coping with PTSD or trauma. I don't think you have to have an official diagnosis to know you have experienced trauma and that it affects your life in many ways.

Jet, sorry if you feel you have wasted you time, I think your posts and discussion have been useful, educational and supportive, and I thought it sounded like you felt supported too.

I think it is important to serve as a place where people who are searching for answers can find out they are not alone. No official diagnosis needed.

In my life I am finding that sometimes the tests for official diagnosis make my symptoms way worse than they were in the first place.
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I want to make clear that I statrted the thread for anyone who wanted to duscuss coping with PTSD or trauma. I don't think you have to have an official diagnosis to know you have experienced trauma and that it affects your life in many ways.

Jet, sorry if you feel you have wasted you time, I think your posts and discussion have been useful, educational and supportive, and I thought it sounded like you felt supported too.

I think it is important to serve as a place where people who are searching for answers can find out they are not alone. No official diagnosis needed.

In my life I am finding that sometimes the tests for official diagnosis make my symptoms way worse than they were in the first place.

Something I was trying to get across is that this is a support thread for a complex syndrome that really does affect a lot of people. One of the best ways for people to get support is through this kind of forum. So, I just feel that flip remarks are not only rude, but not helpful and makes this space unsafe. And that is sad because this thread is serving a good purpose.

I will be honest, even with a clinical license and a Ph.D, my experience with PTSD is a personal journey. How and why it came into my life has nothing to do with my professional life. When I come into a thread like this, I am doing so as just a person seeking mutual support and wanting to give back to people. And as just a person, I need to feel safe, too.

I just find it very disturbing and down right rude and without one ounce of empathy for someone to question anyone's diagnostic status or announce wasting one's time just because they feel the thread may not be the right one for them. This is dismissive and a put down to other members.

I would love to interact on the thread because I have found that just getting what other people experience is helpful to me. It feels like I am not alone and I can get ideas about coping. My background helps in some ways, but, just other people with PTSD have always been the best medicine for me.

I am not certain about my feeling safe here at this point because of this interaction. So, I'll just check back from time to time and see how it feels. Everyone needs to feel safe in support threads. It is true that by virtue of being on-line, this is a publicforum and that always has its hazards, but, I don't think it is too much to ask for simple courtesy within a specific community such as this one. It is a very diverse community with many experiences and skills and people that care about each other.

I am sorry if I disrupted things for others. I felt I owed you all an explanation out of respect for your participation and to you as the OP.
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Something I was trying to get across is that this is a support thread for a complex syndrome that really does affect a lot of people. One of the best ways for people to get support is through this kind of forum. So, I just feel that flip remarks are not only rude, but not helpful and makes this space unsafe. And that is sad because this thread is serving a good purpose.

I will be honest, even with a clinical license and a Ph.D, my experience with PTSD is a personal journey. How and why it came into my life has nothing to do with my professional life. When I come into a thread like this, I am doing so as just a person seeking mutual support and wanting to give back to people. And as just a person, I need to feel safe, too.

I just find it very disturbing and down right rude and without one ounce of empathy for someone to question anyone's diagnostic status or announce wasting one's time just because they feel the thread may not be the right one for them. This is dismissive and a put down to other members.

I would love to interact on the thread because I have found that just getting what other people experience is helpful to me. It feels like I am not alone and I can get ideas about coping. My background helps in some ways, but, just other people with PTSD have always been the best medicine for me.

I am not certain about my feeling safe here at this point because of this interaction. So, I'll just check back from time to time and see how it feels. Everyone needs to feel safe in support threads. It is true that by virtue of being on-line, this is a publicforum and that always has its hazards, but, I don't think it is too much to ask for simple courtesy within a specific community such as this one. It is a very diverse community with many experiences and skills and people that care about each other.

I am sorry if I disrupted things for others. I felt I owed you all an explanation out of respect for your participation and to you as the OP.
I was not disgreeing with you, we just deal differently.

I don't know what Jet is going through right now, so I choose to explain what actually I think the thread is about and go on from there.

Symptoms of PTSD include anger and outbursts and controlling behavior, so to expect no one to ever show symptoms is unrealistic in a ptsd thread. I think we can choose to engage and be upset, or we can explain why we disagree and let it go. Which is also unrealistic in a PTSD thread.

Do I with people would never say hurtful things? yes. Is this realistic? no.

So I say we move on to encouraging each other and working really hard to de-escalate anger when we can.
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You touch it and it curls inward?

I think that has happened to two of our folks here...

its ok to curl inward

eventually the plant unfolds when it no longer feels the threat...
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I have a diagnosis of PTSD...but I dont come in here until now. I understand the need to have a safe secure place to discuss our issues but the internet, especially a very public one such as this one, is not the safest forum. I hope Jet comes back and makes allowances for the amount of privacy one can have here...
I am so much medication and have been through so much to me privacy is overrated and can sometimes allow hurtful things to on that would notfly in the public eye.

So I like this format.

But I have the luxury of having a therapist I can talk about things I am afraid no one else wants to know about....details.

I do want people, expecially those who live in populated areas to know that mental health services are avaiable at sliding scales and often for free through the govt. even medication.
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