Concealed weapons. Yes or No ???

Blaze · 08-14-2010, 08:17 AM

Wow, now this is very interesting indeed. Yesterday at lunch with a bunch of Doctors and Nurses. We got into this conversation/argument. It all started because when one of our Nurses went to Starbucks to get coffee, she walked into the cafe and looked around and said that pretty much everyone in the cafe had their holsters openly showing and pistols just a shinning. She said she felt safe, knowing she could walk out without worrying about getting mugged with all the hardware she seen.
Oh and what really hit the nail in the coffin to say... Is Harris County just made a new law, to which everyone is jumping aboard and trying to get a CC Lic. The law is; If you have a Concealed document, you don't have to stand in the long court lines like everyone else, You present your document and you are let in on the side entrance, So you get your stuff done faster and no more standing in an hour or so line.
To which started off the conversation/argument. I for one have a CC lic. But I haven't felt the need (Yet) to carry on my persons as Blade stated. And yes, I agree with Mr.Sunshine. You should be trained and educated and everyone should take the course. It's true, higher crimes are carried out by those who are not trained, and have illegal weapons. I have learned more from this group than with our one hour argument/convo at work. It got kind of testy lol, glad none of our faculty can't carry a weapon into the hospital. I want to thank everyone for their points of views, knowledge and in depth feelings, and I look forward to hearing more.

MsDemeanor · 08-14-2010, 08:36 AM

Sure, go ahead, give everyone a carry permit. Let them stuff as many concealed guns down their jeans as it takes to make their dicks look nice and big.

Ban bullets instead.

Boots13 · 08-14-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Sure, go ahead, give everyone a carry permit. Let them stuff as many concealed guns down their jeans as it takes to make their dicks look nice and big.

Ban bullets instead.

I couldnt agree with you more...Armor piercing bullets dont have a place in my world. Remember the rush to buy ammo when President Obama was elected into office? Everyone thought the end was near and stockpiled ammo, not weapons.

"Let them stuff as many concealed guns down their jeans as it takes to make their dicks look nice and big"

LOL...and then there was the guy at Lowes who was wearing sweats with a handgun tucked in his waistband ... he bent over to get a widget off the shelf and blew his nuts off...

Jesse · 08-14-2010, 02:14 PM

Florida CCW Reciprocity Map

Thinking there are 36 states that honor FL CCW permit, (if I counted right, and 34 states that Fl honors. But all of that honoring only goes as far as handguns or pistols, no other concealed weapon can be carried in the states that honor FL, such as billy clubs, mace etc.

Wondering how I would comfortably conceal a billy club.

Key word here is comfortably. lol

Yes, I'd say Fl. is definitely a gun state.

Florida has issued more than 1.6 million permits since adopting its law in 1987, and had more than 600,000 licensed permit holders as of November 30, 2009. Reported permit holders are predominantly male.

States that Honor Florida's CCW Permit:

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado*, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas*, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan*, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah*, Vermont*, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming

State CCW Permits that Florida Honors:

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming,

Zora77 · 08-14-2010, 03:56 PM

After living in the U.S. since over 10 years and as a recently sworn in American citizen, reading discussions like this all the sudden make me feel like a foreigner again.

In international comparison the U.S. ranks #1 in firearm-related deaths (only closely followed by Brazil). I live in San Francisco and there not a week going by where I don't read about a shooting in the community. A horrific reality that for sure cannot be addressed by putting more firearms into peoples' hands.

It's sad that in this country people can get arrested for drinking a beer in public or exposing their boobs - but have the right to bare arms. An interesting concept of freedom.

Zora77 · 08-14-2010, 04:36 PM

Also, how about instead fighting for every American's right to have good education, a job, access to health care and healthy food? Something tells me a discussion on the 'right to bare arms' would not be as relevant if these issues would be resolved.

Oh my - this German/American has her undies in a twist over this topic

Corkey · 08-14-2010, 04:51 PM

My answer, yea, no.

Stearns · 08-14-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zora77

After living in the U.S. since over 10 years and as a recently sworn in American citizen, reading discussions like this all the sudden make me feel like a foreigner again.

In international comparison the U.S. ranks #1 in firearm-related deaths (only closely followed by Brazil). I live in San Francisco and there not a week going by where I don't read about a shooting in the community. A horrific reality that for sure cannot be addressed by putting more firearms into peoples' hands.

It's sad that in this country people can get arrested for drinking a beer in public or exposing their boobs - but have the right to bare arms. An interesting concept of freedom.

I thought only Michelle Obama had the right to 'bare arms'.

Zora77 · 08-14-2010, 06:39 PM

Haha - looks like I am a foreigner after all

I'm all for the right to bare boobs - how about that?? Oh wait, I'm in San Francisco - never mind.

Blaze · 08-14-2010, 08:36 AM

And... I guess the matters got worse when the new law was thrown into the conversation. Harris County law; If you show up at court with a Concealed weapons document. You will be let in from a side line. To which you will not have to stand in an hour line anymore, you will be let in quickly. To which there is a mad house of people signed up for the courses now, and there is a waiting list.

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Zora77 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 58 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 72 Thanked 121 Times in 37 Posts Rep Power: 175636	After living in the U.S. since over 10 years and as a recently sworn in American citizen, reading discussions like this all the sudden make me feel like a foreigner again. In international comparison the U.S. ranks #1 in firearm-related deaths (only closely followed by Brazil). I live in San Francisco and there not a week going by where I don't read about a shooting in the community. A horrific reality that for sure cannot be addressed by putting more firearms into peoples' hands. It's sad that in this country people can get arrested for drinking a beer in public or exposing their boobs - but have the right to bare arms. An interesting concept of freedom.

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Zora77 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 58 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 72 Thanked 121 Times in 37 Posts Rep Power: 175636	Also, how about instead fighting for every American's right to have good education, a job, access to health care and healthy food? Something tells me a discussion on the 'right to bare arms' would not be as relevant if these issues would be resolved. Oh my - this German/American has her undies in a twist over this topic

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Zora77 Junior Member How Do You Identify?: Queer Femme Preferred Pronoun?: She Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 58 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 72 Thanked 121 Times in 37 Posts Rep Power: 175636	Haha - looks like I am a foreigner after all I'm all for the right to bare boobs - how about that?? Oh wait, I'm in San Francisco - never mind.