Proposed Mosque Near Ground Zero

[suebee]

I don't think al Quaida will ever have to attack the U.S. again in order to achieve it's goals. Why? Because it's as if they've planted a virus in the land, one that is causing the country to suffer from a national auto-immune type disease, one that causes it to attack itself from within. It's breaking down the national fibre, and leaving the whole country vulnerable to opportunistic infections, such as Glen Beck, Sarah Palin et al.

I've said this before, but this scares the crap out of me.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by suebee

I don't think al Quaida will ever have to attack the U.S. again in order to achieve it's goals. Why? Because it's as if they've planted a virus in the land, one that is causing the country to suffer from a national auto-immune type disease, one that causes it to attack itself from within. It's breaking down the national fibre, and leaving the whole country vulnerable to opportunistic infections, such as Glen Beck, Sarah Palin et al.

I've said this before, but this scares the crap out of me.

They are undoubtedly quite amused with how we are tearing ourselves apart.

[MsDemeanor]

Aj, here's one more:

7) If it's not insensitive for Muslims to hold daily prayer right on top of a 9/11 crash site that overlooks a memorial for same (they've been doing it without complaints for eight years), then why is insensitive for Muslims to learn to cook and to play basketball in an abandoned building several blocks from a 9/11 crash site?

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Aj, here's one more:

7) If it's not insensitive for Muslims to hold daily prayer right on top of a 9/11 crash site that overlooks a memorial for same (they've been doing it without complaints for eight years), then why is insensitive for Muslims to learn to cook and to play basketball in an abandoned building several blocks from a 9/11 crash site?

there you go again...............confusing the issue with trivial tidbits of information.....

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Toughy

there you go again...............confusing the issue with trivial tidbits of information.....

Yep. Quite the fact-centric little bitch, aren't I?

[Heart]

Not to mention that swaths of downtown Manhattan were built on top of the remains of African American slaves and Native peoples. Talk about "hallowed ground..."

Read this: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/08/...-graves-slaves

[dreadgeek]

Here's the thing I find quite frustrating about this argument--I have *yet* to see a compelling reason given. What I've heard or read, so far, are lots of variations on the theme of "they have the right to build what they want, provided that they don't actually build it". I've heard a lot of statements along the lines of "it's an insult to those who died"--without saying how those who died are insulted. Yet, I haven't seen an explanation for why Muslims--all 1 billion of them--can be held responsible or, at least, share in the culpability of those 19 enterprising young men from Saudi Arabia but it is entirely unreasonable to, for instance, to hold all white Americans responsible for, say, the decimation of native populations in the Americas or the enslavement of Africans, or the apartheid that was both the custom and law in America an South Africa until the last part of the 20th century, or....

I wonder why it is that there's no explanations forthcoming about why collective responsibility applies to the minority but not the majority.


Cheers
Aj

Originally Posted by Heart

Not to mention that swaths of downtown Manhattan were built on top of the remains of African American slaves and Native peoples. Talk about "hallowed ground..."

Read this: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/08/...-graves-slaves

Originally Posted by MsDemeanor

Yep. Quite the fact-centric little bitch, aren't I?

Originally Posted by Toughy

there you go again...............confusing the issue with trivial tidbits of information.....

[paposeco]

Originally Posted by Toughy

there you go again...............confusing the issue with trivial tidbits of information.....

I'm thinking you must be jesting. "trivial bits of information." ?? are you being funny/sarcastic?

[suebee]

Originally Posted by paposeco

I'm thinking you must be jesting. "trivial bits of information." ?? are you being funny/sarcastic?

I think she's making fun of the folks who are protesting the mosque, but seem to have no idea what they're talking about.

[paposeco]

Originally Posted by suebee

I think she's making fun of the folks who are protesting the mosque, but seem to have no idea what they're talking about.

ahhh...thank God, for a minute there....lol.

I know that there are 'radicals', nut-jobs, of every kind, case and point--->right-wingnut-christians! These folks do and have done more damage than any Mosque anywhere will ever do.

If we say NO! to the building of the Mosque, then we must say NO! to any Church being built anywhere (following the nut-bags' logic), because Lord knows how much death and destruction has been been committed and sanctioned by the "Christians". (read some books on the history of the Christian movement). I used to call myself a Christian, but these radicalChristians, give God/Christ a bad name. If they're really CHRISTians, why are they being so UN-Christ like.
Here's the deal, they are NOT CHRISTians, if they were, they would look more like CHRIST, instead of a bunch of fear and hate mongers.
So you see, there are nut-jobs of every faith, not just the Muslims or someone else we don't agree with. Don't just swallow what people tell you, not even FOX & FREAKS, Palin...etc, use the brain the good Lord gave you. Think for yourself, reason, educate yourself, discuss, be open minded..there are other points of view just as valid as yours, perhaps (if you humble yourself) more so. Why do these self-righteous people(fear&hate mongers) think God died and left themin charge of every body's life, when they can't even manage their own hypocrisy.
I say, let the Muslims have their building.
The rest of you Palins and Becks and Rushs..go get some humility and look up the word HYPOCRISY. And instead of proclaiming that YOU are a CHRISTIAN, how about actually LIVING AND ACTING LIKE A CHRISTian.

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by paposeco

I'm thinking you must be jesting. "trivial bits of information." ?? are you being funny/sarcastic?

No I was actually very serious......laughin....

seriously I was being sarcastic.....msdemeanor and I are old lefty friends.........


besides...........in this crowd had I been serious my ass would be flaming big time...........laughin

[paposeco]

Originally Posted by Toughy

No I was actually very serious......laughin....

seriously I was being sarcastic.....msdemeanor and I are old lefty friends.........


besides...........in this crowd had I been serious my ass would be flaming big time...........laughin

from one leftyto another...I'm glad you were being "seriously...sarcastic", and not sarcastly serious...lol