Olivia Cruisers? Carribean Sun Cruise October 30th

[The_Lady_Snow]

Originally Posted by BullDog

Thanks Snow. I have been reading this thread for days and still am trying to understand. I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am supportive of women's space and maybe that is where the difference in opinion lies. As I said earlier I do absolutely think transwomen should be included and if they are not that is transphobic and wrong.

I don't get how you don't understand...

The Original Gender Spectrum tried to hood wink its community with a get together where it is WOMENS SPACE, this is where all the sensitivity is from.



Unfortunately we all took a shit, on MS thread because we all brought our hurt feelings and frustrations and voiced them out in type.

I am gonna be honest here so bare with me.

Once again because some people, who btw are women who do not agree with the bullshit and lies posted.

Then it somehow translated into anti lesbian craziness.

It happens A LOT if trans issues are discussed by the same group of peeps.

It's a tiring pattern.


No one wants Olivia to open up their gates to men. *I* don't think any woman's space should have to

But don't be a liar and say you got a buddy in the system that is gonna make it all better cause well it's not true.

This is what this spill over is from.

True story

[BullDog]

Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

I don't get how you don't understand...

The Original Gender Spectrum tried to hood wink its community with a get together where it is WOMENS SPACE, this is where all the sensitivity is from.



Unfortunately we all took a shit, on MS thread because we all brought our hurt feelings and frustrations and voiced them out in type.

I am gonna be honest here so bare with me.

Once again because some people, who btw are women who do not agree with the bullshit and lies posted.

Then it somehow translated into anti lesbian craziness.

It happens A LOT if trans issues are discussed by the same group of peeps.

It's a tiring pattern.


No one wants Olivia to open up their gates to men. *I* don't think any woman's space should have to

But don't be a liar and say you got a buddy in the system that is gonna make it all better cause well it's not true.

This is what this spill over is from.

True story

Don't be a liar? I'm not lying about anything.

As to the other stuff if you are referring to the cruise set up by another website owner I think the whole thing is bullshit, but I haven't followed the story. I am still on the email list just because it's quite amazing to see just how many ways one person can attempt to make money off of her so-called "community."

[Corkey]

Jebus Bully no one is calling you the liar, please re read and you will see who is being referenced.

[BullDog]

OK, ok sorry Snow. I see what the liar part is referring to now. Olivia Cruise is not appropriate for holding a butch femme event. I agree. That was the first thing I said.

I really thought people were saying it was wrong to have vacations geared towards lesbians, but if that is not the case then I think I am clear on things. And yeah, I haven't been following the other story but I can see where it would make things raw.

Thank you.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by MysticOceansFL

It's not that I have money to burn but I'm not going to make my choices of where I want to enjoy my vacation do to someone not being able to go on the Olivia Cruise If you have a problem or a situation with the cruise line then choose and pick another one and friendships shouldn't be based on what or where someone goes anyways! I get the impression that most of people are trying to "play" the you pick them we"ll not be friends with you, because of your choices" and that tells me that you never really were friends to begin with now was ya?

Infinite and Snow did an awesome job answering you but I'll throw my .02 out there too.

We're on a site that is for adults only. Sure, there's the occasional reversion back to childhood moments of retaliation and sulking and tattling, etc...but, for the most part, we're adults here and act accordingly.

The connection I think you are seeing is not so much as "if you don't, I won't" but the recoil from seeing loved ones being blatantly rejected though they are a part of the same community that is promoted by the cruise line.

There was a comment to you made a bit ago (I've forgotten by whom) about what may happen when you show up at the dock. I don't know you personally and you've not posted any pics of yourself in the gallery, so I have no idea what you look like. That comment was addressing the possibility of you presenting quite masculine in appearance. If that's the case, yo may have problems with your cruise. If you present more adrogynous, from the stories posted, I'd say you have a higher likelihood of enjoying your vacation thoroughly.

If you do partake of an Olivia cruise in the future, I hope you have a wonderful time. I've cruised, though not with Olivia, and I enjoyed it immensely.