Sexism in Technology

[Medusa]

Originally Posted by Bob

Here's a good start: http://www.genderads.com/Vio._Ag._Males.html

Interesting to note that a great number of the ads appear to be subjugating the power of men (i.e the stiletto in the back, the chains around the neck and being walked like dogs)

[NJFemmie]

Originally Posted by Medusa

Interesting to note that a great number of the ads appear to be subjugating the power of men (i.e the stiletto in the back, the chains around the neck and being walked like dogs)

Also interesting to note that you don't see these things as advertisements.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by NJFemmie

Also interesting to note that you don't see these things as advertisements.

Er, they're all ads.

[NJFemmie]

Originally Posted by Bob

Er, they're all ads.

I've never seen them here. When I turn on my TV, or flip open a magazine - or drive past a billboard - I don't see ads like these. It's usually the other way around.

And ... when you consider the number of ads like these versus ads against women - again, it's far and few in between.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by NJFemmie

I've never seen them here. When I turn on my TV, or flip open a magazine - or drive past a billboard - I don't see ads like these. It's usually the other way around.

And ... when you consider the number of ads like these versus ads against women - again, it's far and few in between.

With all respect, whether YOU'VE seen them is merely anecdotal and, frankly, irrelevant to the question of whether violence against men is being depicted in advertising. It's rather the same argument that many people use to say sexism doesn't exist at all, simply because they've never seen it (somehow); I've heard women say they've never experienced it.

As for quantifying the number of ads that show women in misogynistic, violent poses versus that of men, your point is taken, of course. It doesn't excuse those that depict men in similar positions, nor does it make those ads less offensive and demeaning to all people.

[NJFemmie]

Originally Posted by Bob

With all respect, whether YOU'VE seen them is merely anecdotal and, frankly, irrelevant to the question of whether violence against men is being depicted in advertising. It's rather the same argument that many people use to say sexism doesn't exist at all, simply because they've never seen it (somehow); I've heard women say they've never experienced it.

As for quantifying the number of ads that show women in misogynistic, violent poses versus that of men, your point is taken, of course. It doesn't excuse those that depict men in similar positions, nor does it make those ads less offensive and demeaning to all people.

My point was that it is not as "mainstream" as violence against women. Of course I KNOW that violence against men exists - but it is not as "acceptable" or as "common" as that of the depiction of women. When I turn on my TV, I don't see some guys junk hanging out in a car ad - I'll see boobs. Lots of boobs. Boobs and ass. Boobs, ass and ... well you get the drift.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by Medusa

Interesting to note that a great number of the ads appear to be subjugating the power of men (i.e the stiletto in the back, the chains around the neck and being walked like dogs)

So a question to all about these ads: do you consider these as a way of reclaiming some privilege or as something else?

[MsDemeanor]

Originally Posted by Linus

So a question to all about these ads: do you consider these as a way of reclaiming some privilege or as something else?

I see some of them as playing to mens' sexual fantasies. The ads in the link that had both men and women tended toward mild/vanilla-ish BDSM. The overall levels of violence were quite mild compared to what one finds in the female ads from the same site.

linkyloo

Ads that feature blood and bodies (or body parts) aren't appropriate, not matter the sex of the model; those sorts of ads are far more common and mainstream, though, when the victim is female.