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Old 12-19-2009, 08:15 AM   #1
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Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK".

I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7LwuVF8Oo"]YouTube- Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water w/ lyrics[/ame]

Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock".

But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called.

Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's.

Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x6chChxzV0"]YouTube- Grand Funk Railroad - Inside Looking Out 1969[/ame]

My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as rocking for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.)

I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield.

Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc...
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I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group.

Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it?

More to follow!

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GO GEORGE LOPEZ on "Lopez Tonight"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me tell you, this night show is LONG overdue. Hey, we grew up with Johnny Carson owning late night TV - and then Dave L. and Jay L. (Goodness.) This new show is so biting and wild, HISTORY IN THE MAKING!!

And I'm always proud and amazed when the "art" community comes together for support. Every top musician, actor/actress, comedian, etc... IS COMPLETELY BACKING THIS SHOW!!

I feel very proud about it. We had Oprah for the daytime - which is so historical, and then that queer Ellen (also daytime), but George is at night. He has more freedom with the TBS channel than a "regular prime DAYtime" network... (and kudos to Turner for this). So he is also using this platform politcally, which I believe is a very necessary need, AND will help everyone all in all to be more tolerant!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8mZdSq4MTs"]YouTube- lowrider - W.A.R.[/ame]

Anyway, George has used this song as his theme song since opening night - and I think it is PERFECT!!!

The guy "George" too, (I think...?) running the show band, is the man who last worked with Michael Jackson for his show that he unfortunatly did NOT get to do. But, this man had worked with many famous singer/dancers. (I'm thinking J-Lo, etc... but, I could be wrong there.)

I probably shouldn't write things here without factual background, huh? BUT I LOVE GUESSING TO SEE IF I WAS RIGHT - with musical trivia. I am welcome always to stand corrected though! (And it's nice to know if my brain is working right at times!!)

ANYWAY, GO GEORGE!!!!
ROCK ON BRO!!!!!!!!

I'm serious, he is SO GOOD at this... and I'm loving a new "diversity" of audience!!!!!!!!!!! OMGoodness, so long over due!

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*P.S. IMPORTANT: Obama backed George on this show promo and George is HOSTING the annual X-Mas show tonight for the White House. DARN COOL and special that is!!!!!!!! (Be there!!)
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Default OH MY GOODNESS!!!

I was WAY TOO "ROMANTIC", ahead of my time:

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np5VvHx-1T4"]YouTube- I'M GONNA LOVE YOU, JUST A LITTLE MORE BABY - BARRY WHITE[/nomedia]

*I had this 45 record and played and played it, over and over - I'm so lucky my parents handled me like they did!


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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFHBQ3LMP4Q"]YouTube- mean mean man[/ame]

another Wanda Jackson song, I need to do some more research and see who is the first ever rockabilly female singer...
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Default The Supremes

Beautiful song. And nothing could keep me, keep me from you:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph5iadqH3Eg"]YouTube- Ain't No Mountain High Enough By Diana Ross & The Supremes[/ame]




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No, Phil Collins didn't sing this first!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZVRwHrCTp8"]YouTube- You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes RVSD0001[/ame]

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And the 45 record of theirs that I liked drumming to, it was like a "nice, steady, easy, comforting jog"... very soothing and relaxing. (Except I was able to really crank up the bass on this, which is the best part IMO!)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z47xJhnEOVI"]YouTube- The Supremes: Come See About Me w/ Lyrics[/ame]

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I think this is one of the most sensous and sexiest songs and videos ever:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaHHrNQVrg"]YouTube- WICKED GAME [HD] Chris Isaak[/ame]


Arghh, arghh!!


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... for holiday time, and folks starting to get "riled" up here:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtUMa0FtuWY"]YouTube- Marvin Gaye - What's going on[/ame]


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Yeah, there is a fine line in my mind, thinking back now between HARD ROCK and "HEAVY METAL/HARD ROCK".

I felt "at the time" that Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were heavy rock, heavy early metal - due to the heavy bass and lead guitar sounds. Like Iron Man and Smoke on the Water.oh yeah, deep purple, for sure. always loved their version of "river deep, mountain high".

Heavy rock, was Led Zepplin and The Who... also because they did various styles of music as well. (And, like Ted Nudgent "hard" rock, Metallica = HEAVY METAL rock!!) Personal tastes for some, but they were categorized by music critics... having to come up with new descriptions, like "grunge rock".

But, really thinking back now, the first heavy rock for me was Grand Funk Railroad. I didn't consider it then, but heard it "first", before any of the others. I guess I just thought "wow, what the HELL is this music"?! I was really excited. I didn't know what it was called.
Cool. my first live concert in memory was blood, sweat and tears. and my mind was blown!
Three band members only and I never saw anyone again jam like that until ZZTOP came along later as a three piece gig. (Whole different style there, I know.) Again, everything happened boom, bang - so quick from year to year throughout the 70's.

Here is Grand Funk Railroad in '69!

My brother had this album and I fed off of the drummer here first as rocking for myself. I loved their bass sound, very distinct. (I believe later someone here became just Grand Funk - and some bands went into a more commericial for the times sound, ex: Locomotion, We're an American Band by Grand Funk. NOT the same as their early stuff, which disbanded really - from the original sound anyway. They were advanced I believe to start off with.)

I'll have to read up on them more. It's been awhile. To see who went where. Everyone generally went somewhere. It's fascinating to me who is from earlier bands that we didn't know of. Like Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, and Nash - and later YOUNG), was really from the early Hollies group, David Crosby was for the Yardbirds: song Turn, Turn, Turn, Stephen Stills from early Buffalo Springfield.

Eric Clapton from Derrick and the Dominoes and Cream, (think I have these right) etc...
__

I agree the first all girl band is incredibly significant in the history of music. Just wasn't the rock question, first major label. (But, you knew that one too!) I also agree that GirlSchool rocked more heavily and that Kelly Johnson was ahead of her time women guitarist... more like a VanHalen-isque. I thought that clip was from the mid to late 70's though, for the haircut and Heart t-shirt, (where Heart hit their bomb in mid-70's). So, I would agree with you, probably the first hardest rock all female group.

Fanny just had it's own historical significance. And most don't know of them and somebody had to do it. They were treated like shit at first. And their hits were of the lighter rock, less HEAVY type of songs. That says something, doesn't it?They are totally cool and slightly "before my time". So glad you posted about them!

More to follow!
Keep up the good work!

WILDCAT

*Sorry for typo's and all, up all night again!!
and me with no capitals! been in chat too long-lol.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV0xBbVx6i8"]YouTube- Deep Purple River Deep, Mountain High Live Usa 1968[/ame]
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