The Never-Ending Bathroom Debate

Linus · 03-11-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

Linus, women do get raped. It's not fear, uncertainty or doubt. So what exactly are you saying?

Sorry I should have been clearer. I know women get raped. So do men. But to assume that ALL rapes occur in the washroom (as posited by the right wing and such) is hyperbole.

The majority of rape occurs in the home. Since rape is often the reason to keep washrooms gender specific, why not keep homes gender specific?

BullDog · 03-11-2011, 12:54 PM

OK, well I have never heard of the right wing positing that all rapes occur in the washroom. I do think it's quite clear the right wing doesn't have women's safety as a top priority given what they are trying to get passed through the U.S. Congress right now.

Linus · 03-11-2011, 12:58 PM

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/...n-bathroom-ads

BullDog · 03-11-2011, 01:07 PM

Ok thanks Linus. The logic of the commercials don't make sense of course. The man going into the bathroom after the child goes in would not be "legal." That's absurd.

Also what if they show a boy going into a men's bathroom instead of a girl, and show the scary looking dude going in after him? That was already "legal."

I don't think a child that age should be going into a bathroom alone, and I don't think the children should be playing unsupervised.

Linus · 03-11-2011, 01:11 PM

Yup. That's what I was trying to point out. Florida's attempt (I think this was attempted in 2007/2008) at a gender neutral law in regards to washroom shows a lot of what the right seem to think of washroom neutrality and, in particular, the "threat" of transwomen in the woman's washroom.

BullDog · 03-11-2011, 01:14 PM

Ok, got it. Trans people are not the threat and rapists and child molesters are not going to change their ways based on any laws.

Linus · 03-11-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BullDog

Ok, got it. Trans people are not the threat and rapists and child molesters are not going to change their ways based on any laws.

Yup. But at the same time, to suggest that behind every door is a rapist is a bit extreme (which is what the ads that ran in Florida and elsewhere suggested).

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