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DamselFly · 03-31-2011, 11:59 AM

qingduo guan zhao! Glad to be here! for someone who got no sleep last night, i'm doing pretty well! still cold here, so that means MAYBE the long walk to the postbox. i've been feeling bad these last several days-dr. visits really take the energy out of me, plus they're playing around w/my meds! i dislike that the first thing a new dr does is change meds. i don't understand why, if things are working, they fell they've got to tinker w/it anyway. must be something learned in med school on patient relations (not good!)
that's my rant for the morning! going to get lunch now!
namaste,
DamselFly

Toughy · 03-31-2011, 09:11 PM

you can tell the MD that you don't want to change your meds......they are working just fine (assuming they are)...you really can say no........they need need to give you a good reason for changing them....'tinkering' is bullshit...

DomnNC · 03-31-2011, 10:52 PM

You have to be careful nowadays about refusing to follow your Dr's orders. More and more if you refuse to change meds when they dictate or do certain therapies they have the right to refuse to be your Dr, then they report you to your insurance company and they refuse to pay for meds that your Dr has recommended you come off of EVEN if they are working for you. There are reasons at times that a Dr will change your meds up, it can be that after a certain time the drug you are taking becomes toxic to you or no longer is handling whatever health situation you are taking them for depending on tests results.

My mother was given 2 different drugs for treatment of osteoperosis, she had bad reactions to both of them, Actinol and another one, can't recall the name. A new Dr wanted her to take Reclast (the once a year IV thing). She told him about the two bad reactions she had to the pill form and asked him if this drug was different, he told her it was basically an IV of the same pills. She said ok, so if I start having a bad reaction how do you get it out of my system, is there an antidote, to which he replied no, so based on her history with these type of drugs she said I'd prefer not to take it then. He looked at her and said well if you aren't going to follow my advice you need to leave my office and find another Dr. He had best be glad I didn't accompany her on that visit. So you have to be careful what you say to Dr's nowadays. He reported her to her insurance company who then refused to pay for the pill versions which was ok since she couldn't take them anyway. The insurance companies have taken over our lives little by little, while we pay ridiculous insurance rates and they have the senators and congressmen in their hip pockets with all the perks they give them.

Miss Scarlett · 04-01-2011, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DomnNC

You have to be careful nowadays about refusing to follow your Dr's orders. More and more if you refuse to change meds when they dictate or do certain therapies they have the right to refuse to be your Dr, then they report you to your insurance company and they refuse to pay for meds that your Dr has recommended you come off of EVEN if they are working for you. There are reasons at times that a Dr will change your meds up, it can be that after a certain time the drug you are taking becomes toxic to you or no longer is handling whatever health situation you are taking them for depending on tests results.

My mother was given 2 different drugs for treatment of osteoperosis, she had bad reactions to both of them, Actinol and another one, can't recall the name. A new Dr wanted her to take Reclast (the once a year IV thing). She told him about the two bad reactions she had to the pill form and asked him if this drug was different, he told her it was basically an IV of the same pills. She said ok, so if I start having a bad reaction how do you get it out of my system, is there an antidote, to which he replied no, so based on her history with these type of drugs she said I'd prefer not to take it then. He looked at her and said well if you aren't going to follow my advice you need to leave my office and find another Dr. He had best be glad I didn't accompany her on that visit. So you have to be careful what you say to Dr's nowadays. He reported her to her insurance company who then refused to pay for the pill versions which was ok since she couldn't take them anyway. The insurance companies have taken over our lives little by little, while we pay ridiculous insurance rates and they have the senators and congressmen in their hip pockets with all the perks they give them.

Sadly this is true...

If i may add...sometimes you also take a chance by using insurance to fill or reimburse for prescriptions. My doctor put me on Metformin (a diabetes med) for PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) and not diabetes. He warned me not to use my insurance because filling this with my insurance would flag me as diabetic and there would be consequences if my insurance company thought I was diabetic. So I get it filled at Target for $4 and they don't have any insurance info on me.

cuddlyfemme · 04-01-2011, 04:58 AM

Good Morning all you handsome Stone Butches and Femme's that adore them!

Toughy · 04-01-2011, 02:04 PM

If a doctor treats you like an idiot, requires you to do what they say, then file a complaint with the local AMA.....there are methods for stopping abusive behavior by practioners. Call your local TV station......they usually have an investigative arm for this kind of thing.

None of the behaviors or treatment described are ethical. It will not stop until consumers of their services stand up and report them. You are not a patient....you are a consumer and you have rights and responsibilities. Stop letting them abuse you. The Obama healthcare reform should help in stopping much of this kind of behavior.

Stop taking that kind of crap. The doctor is part of a team that includes you in all decision making.

DomnNC · 04-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Dr's do not have to accept you as a patient. They can refuse to treat you. If they couldn't refuse to treat you then the homeless, those without health insurance could go to the Dr of their choice and get treatment. Try getting treatment without money or insurance.

I have no problem with my Dr, he's been my Dr for almost 30 years, we have a good relationship and he listens to me. He hates insurance companies with a passion so he talks about them quite often. Did you know that a lot of insurance companies now require a questionnaire to be sent when they bill for their services now asking questions like how involved the patient is in their care, do they follow their Dr's guidelines, take medications he recommends etcetcetc, why do you think they ask you all those questions when the nurse checks you in before the Dr comes in. If you aren't following your Dr's advice and taking the meds he recommends or other things he recommends it's the insurance companies who will stop paying for certain meds/treatment if your Dr has recommended changing them. My Dr told me this himself during one of his rants about insurance companies.

edit: granted this was before reform and my mother's issue with a damn Dr was before reform.

03-31-2011, 11:59 AM	#1
DamselFly Member How Do You Identify?: QueerStoneFemme Preferred Pronoun?: Ma'am or Damsel Relationship Status: single Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: hovering here and there Posts: 259 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,053 Thanked 771 Times in 199 Posts Rep Power: 396593	good afternoon! qingduo guan zhao! Glad to be here! for someone who got no sleep last night, i'm doing pretty well! still cold here, so that means MAYBE the long walk to the postbox. i've been feeling bad these last several days-dr. visits really take the energy out of me, plus they're playing around w/my meds! i dislike that the first thing a new dr does is change meds. i don't understand why, if things are working, they fell they've got to tinker w/it anyway. must be something learned in med school on patient relations (not good!) that's my rant for the morning! going to get lunch now! namaste, DamselFly __________________ so long as space remains so long as sentient beings remain i will remain in order to help, to serve, to make my own contribution (Buddhist prayer, a favorite of H.H.)

03-31-2011, 09:11 PM	#2
Toughy Senior Member How Do You Identify?: pervert butch feminist woman Preferred Pronoun?: see above Relationship Status: independent entity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,826 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,068 Thanked 7,655 Times in 1,523 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	you can tell the MD that you don't want to change your meds......they are working just fine (assuming they are)...you really can say no........they need need to give you a good reason for changing them....'tinkering' is bullshit...

03-31-2011, 10:52 PM	#3
DomnNC Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Male Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him Relationship Status: Widow Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Permanently Banned 11/15/2011 Posts: 1,223 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,618 Thanked 2,582 Times in 837 Posts Rep Power: 0	You have to be careful nowadays about refusing to follow your Dr's orders. More and more if you refuse to change meds when they dictate or do certain therapies they have the right to refuse to be your Dr, then they report you to your insurance company and they refuse to pay for meds that your Dr has recommended you come off of EVEN if they are working for you. There are reasons at times that a Dr will change your meds up, it can be that after a certain time the drug you are taking becomes toxic to you or no longer is handling whatever health situation you are taking them for depending on tests results. My mother was given 2 different drugs for treatment of osteoperosis, she had bad reactions to both of them, Actinol and another one, can't recall the name. A new Dr wanted her to take Reclast (the once a year IV thing). She told him about the two bad reactions she had to the pill form and asked him if this drug was different, he told her it was basically an IV of the same pills. She said ok, so if I start having a bad reaction how do you get it out of my system, is there an antidote, to which he replied no, so based on her history with these type of drugs she said I'd prefer not to take it then. He looked at her and said well if you aren't going to follow my advice you need to leave my office and find another Dr. He had best be glad I didn't accompany her on that visit. So you have to be careful what you say to Dr's nowadays. He reported her to her insurance company who then refused to pay for the pill versions which was ok since she couldn't take them anyway. The insurance companies have taken over our lives little by little, while we pay ridiculous insurance rates and they have the senators and congressmen in their hip pockets with all the perks they give them.

04-01-2011, 04:58 AM	#5
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04-01-2011, 02:04 PM	#6
Toughy Senior Member How Do You Identify?: pervert butch feminist woman Preferred Pronoun?: see above Relationship Status: independent entity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,826 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,068 Thanked 7,655 Times in 1,523 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	If a doctor treats you like an idiot, requires you to do what they say, then file a complaint with the local AMA.....there are methods for stopping abusive behavior by practioners. Call your local TV station......they usually have an investigative arm for this kind of thing. None of the behaviors or treatment described are ethical. It will not stop until consumers of their services stand up and report them. You are not a patient....you are a consumer and you have rights and responsibilities. Stop letting them abuse you. The Obama healthcare reform should help in stopping much of this kind of behavior. Stop taking that kind of crap. The doctor is part of a team that includes you in all decision making.

04-01-2011, 04:07 PM	#7
DomnNC Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Male Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him Relationship Status: Widow Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Permanently Banned 11/15/2011 Posts: 1,223 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,618 Thanked 2,582 Times in 837 Posts Rep Power: 0	Dr's do not have to accept you as a patient. They can refuse to treat you. If they couldn't refuse to treat you then the homeless, those without health insurance could go to the Dr of their choice and get treatment. Try getting treatment without money or insurance. I have no problem with my Dr, he's been my Dr for almost 30 years, we have a good relationship and he listens to me. He hates insurance companies with a passion so he talks about them quite often. Did you know that a lot of insurance companies now require a questionnaire to be sent when they bill for their services now asking questions like how involved the patient is in their care, do they follow their Dr's guidelines, take medications he recommends etcetcetc, why do you think they ask you all those questions when the nurse checks you in before the Dr comes in. If you aren't following your Dr's advice and taking the meds he recommends or other things he recommends it's the insurance companies who will stop paying for certain meds/treatment if your Dr has recommended changing them. My Dr told me this himself during one of his rants about insurance companies. edit: granted this was before reform and my mother's issue with a damn Dr was before reform.