Stone Butches

[southernboi63]

I have to agreee with you DomnNC. I define myself as Stone but as I have read I find myself as being confussed. For myself, when I am with that special woman, When we are tgether in the bedroom, I get off by getting her off by me penertrating her. I like being touched but not penertation at all, I feel as if I were born in the wrong body, I wear mens clothing, boxers, eveything....I pack all the time so what would you classify me if not a stoner... the only thing I see if anything would be the touching... I need help//\\

[Dutch Leonard]

Originally Posted by southernboi63

I have to agreee with you DomnNC. I define myself as Stone but as I have read I find myself as being confussed. For myself, when I am with that special woman, When we are tgether in the bedroom, I get off by getting her off by me penertrating her. I like being touched but not penertation at all, I feel as if I were born in the wrong body, I wear mens clothing, boxers, eveything....I pack all the time so what would you classify me if not a stoner... the only thing I see if anything would be the touching... I need help//\\

It doesn't look like you need help to me, some are so stone they allow no touching some just don't want the penetration. You are the boss of how it works. I don't think you are confused.

[DamselFly]

dropping in to say GOOD MORNING to A/all and to thank E/everyone for T/their most helpful advice concerning my medical problems! many thanks to A/all for listening!
*with humble gratitude*
namaste,
DamselFly

[asphaltcowboi]

Originally Posted by southernboi63

I have to agreee with you DomnNC. I define myself as Stone but as I have read I find myself as being confussed. For myself, when I am with that special woman, When we are tgether in the bedroom, I get off by getting her off by me penertrating her. I like being touched but not penertation at all, I feel as if I were born in the wrong body, I wear mens clothing, boxers, eveything....I pack all the time so what would you classify me if not a stoner... the only thing I see if anything would be the touching... I need help//\\

im stone and am very close to the same.. i dont think your confused.. i do think we all have our personal aganda sexualy. some of us (me) do not allow touch below the belt other than my butch cock. i expect to be treated as if that was what i was born with.. lol now maybe im confused? am i t/g? im confertable with the stone lable so that is what i wear. i feel male but reconize that im female. i dont want to become male. i do not want to lose touch with my female side because i believe __for me__ it is what allows me to feel the way i do with a woman..

[Miss Scarlett]

Originally Posted by cody

im stone and am very close to the same.. i dont think your confused.. i do think we all have our personal aganda sexualy. some of us (me) do not allow touch below the belt other than my butch cock. i expect to be treated as if that was what i was born with.. lol now maybe im confused? am i t/g? im confertable with the stone lable so that is what i wear. i feel male but reconize that im female. i dont want to become male. i do not want to lose touch with my female side because i believe __for me__ it is what allows me to feel the way i do with a woman..

cody i don't think you're at all confused...i hate the labels but we seem to have them for everything in our lives...i have t/g friends and i don't think of them as t/g...i just think of them as my friends...

[cuddlyfemme]

Good morning all you wonderful Stone Butches! Have a wonderful day

[morningstar55]

morning Stoners...



ok i should know the answer to this ?
but ... does dating a stone butch .... make me a stone femme??
soo many variations

[*Anya*]

In the beginning, I knew I was lesbian but had no knowledge of all the sub-cultures within the culture.

My first GF's were femme because they were my friends. My best friend & I had a sexual relationship for a few years. I always felt like something was missing-something was: profound, visceral, sexual attraction.

Then I met my ex. She rocked my world. Besides the fact that I was able to respond to her as no others before her, I learned a great deal about lesbian culture of the time.

She never felt like a girl & frankly never really looked like one either. Her mother tried desperately to make her into one. Pictures of her as a little girl really look like a little boy in a dress. When she came out, in the bar culture, her friends strongly identified as stone.

They even had an old-school word for butches that allowed sexual touch: Kiki. In her world, you were either butch or femme, you did not "swing both ways", so to speak. She did not want to be Kiki!

I knew nothing of this sub-culture when we first got together and I did not understand this but accepted it.<<disallowed word>>

Having had relationships with selfish bio men before I came out, men who always seemed to suffer from premature ejaculation; honestly I thought I had died & gone to heaven! Someone happy to pleasure me for hours on end (hey we were young!) what's to think about?!! I fell in love with her & when you love someone, you accept them for who & what they are, right?

No actual thought process about her being stone for a long time. I
missed reciprocating but accepted it- I was too busy enjoying myself & she was too.<<disallowed word>>

Stone or not, lesbian sex is lesbian sex! I am pretty much open to whatever comes my way, I try not to use labels. Regardless if was with a stone butch, butch or TG; I would still be a queer femme, the sexual identity of my partner does not change who I am.

No thought process involved at all with that.

PS: what is the "disallowed word" thing all about? I don't understand. The word fuck is not disallowed but innocuous words are?

[CherylNYC]

Originally Posted by morningstar55

morning Stoners...



ok i should know the answer to this ?
but ... does dating a stone butch .... make me a stone femme??
soo many variations

No, it doesn't. Having your own stone boundaries around where and how you can touch your partner makes you a stone femme. For most women who ID as stonefemme, penetrating a partner is a big boundary.

You aren't defined by who you partner with. You are who you are.

[Gemme]

Originally Posted by CherylNYC

I don't see why being a stonefemme, or a stone butch for that matter, means that we aren't lesbians. My late gf IDed as such, and I certainly do, too. She was an old school butch who IDed as a lesbian, stone butch, butch dyke, and/or leatherdyke top. All of those IDs were female to her, and she didn't feel compelled to call herself anything other than a woman. A very, VERY butch woman. She had a vagina and a clit, just like any other woman. Being stone meant that she was the pitcher. My stonefemme nature means I'm the catcher. No more, no less.

I'm a lesbian and my sex is stone sex. I assume that no one on this site is going to be foolish enough to tell me that I'm not a lesbian because I'm a stonefemme.

Of course not!

I don't id as a lesbian. It just doesn't fit for me. I wouldn't wear ill-fitting clothes (well, usually) and I won't wear an ill-fitting identity on my sleeve either. I am, however, thoroughly Stone Femme.

Identities aren't exclusive, thank goodness. I like the blends and meshed identities that we have here on the site. It helps to make like interesting.

[QueenofSmirks]

Originally Posted by CherylNYC

No, it doesn't. Having your own stone boundaries around where and how you can touch your partner makes you a stone femme. For most women who ID as stonefemme, penetrating a partner is a big boundary.

You aren't defined by who you partner with. You are who you are.

'm in agreement with a lot of what you said, but some stonefemmes actually DO identify as such because their partner ID's as stonebutch. That isn't to say that it's right or necessary for everyone, but I have read posts from other femmes that do claim their stonefemme identity is in direct relation to the fact that they date stonebutches.

[Electrocell]

Originally Posted by southernboi63

I have to agreee with you DomnNC. I define myself as Stone but as I have read I find myself as being confussed. For myself, when I am with that special woman, When we are tgether in the bedroom, I get off by getting her off by me penertrating her. I like being touched but not penertation at all, I feel as if I were born in the wrong body, I wear mens clothing, boxers, eveything....I pack all the time so what would you classify me if not a stoner... the only thing I see if anything would be the touching... I need help//\\

Sounds to me like you are a Transgendered stonebutch. I too feel like I was born in the wrong body. Wouldn't mind having my breast removed but until they perfect the other part of the ftm operation wouldn't consider that part of it. I want to still want to beable to have an orgasm. There are all different types of stonebutches and butches.

[MainelyButch]

Wow, I've been "away" from this site for quite a bit of time and thought I would pop in and see what's going on these days. This conversation in the Butch Zone is really a great one. There can be so many variations of "Butch" and "Femme", I think we each embody different ways, just as we each have different personalities. Diversity is a wonderful thing.

I am back in southern Maine and just bought a place here. It feels great to be back "home" again. And I don't plan on straying too far, except on vacation, from now on! Figured out pretty fast that I was not cut out to live in the southern states!

Looking forward to catching up with people here, and making new friends as well. Hope you are all doing great! And having a super summmer!

~MainelyButch