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cuddlyfemme · 04-01-2011, 04:58 AM

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Toughy · 04-01-2011, 02:04 PM

If a doctor treats you like an idiot, requires you to do what they say, then file a complaint with the local AMA.....there are methods for stopping abusive behavior by practioners. Call your local TV station......they usually have an investigative arm for this kind of thing.

None of the behaviors or treatment described are ethical. It will not stop until consumers of their services stand up and report them. You are not a patient....you are a consumer and you have rights and responsibilities. Stop letting them abuse you. The Obama healthcare reform should help in stopping much of this kind of behavior.

Stop taking that kind of crap. The doctor is part of a team that includes you in all decision making.

DomnNC · 04-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Dr's do not have to accept you as a patient. They can refuse to treat you. If they couldn't refuse to treat you then the homeless, those without health insurance could go to the Dr of their choice and get treatment. Try getting treatment without money or insurance.

I have no problem with my Dr, he's been my Dr for almost 30 years, we have a good relationship and he listens to me. He hates insurance companies with a passion so he talks about them quite often. Did you know that a lot of insurance companies now require a questionnaire to be sent when they bill for their services now asking questions like how involved the patient is in their care, do they follow their Dr's guidelines, take medications he recommends etcetcetc, why do you think they ask you all those questions when the nurse checks you in before the Dr comes in. If you aren't following your Dr's advice and taking the meds he recommends or other things he recommends it's the insurance companies who will stop paying for certain meds/treatment if your Dr has recommended changing them. My Dr told me this himself during one of his rants about insurance companies.

edit: granted this was before reform and my mother's issue with a damn Dr was before reform.

DamselFly · 04-04-2011, 02:18 AM

the primary care dr. i went to see when i first got here refused to refill most of the meds i was on from my previous primary care dr. so i've had to taper myself off as best i could. now, however, i'm running out of my pain meds, which are heavy-duty, and i really lack the expertise to taper myself off of these! i've left calls w/her that i need help plus am out of what she DID refill! she has not returned my calls. i could be in trouble if i went off these cold-turkey (not only extremely unpleasant withdrawal symptoms but life-threatening.) not to mention the fact that no dr. i've seen so far is offering me anything to replace what i've gone off for little things, like MS, RSD, Fibro, and migraines (which are getting worse)! i'm trying to find a new primary care dr. but i'm having a difficult time doing so. is it ethical for a dr. just to say "you shouldn't be on these" and not help you with HOW safely to stop taking the meds?
namaste,
DamselFly

cuddlyfemme · 04-04-2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DamselFly

the primary care dr. i went to see when i first got here refused to refill most of the meds i was on from my previous primary care dr. so i've had to taper myself off as best i could. now, however, i'm running out of my pain meds, which are heavy-duty, and i really lack the expertise to taper myself off of these! i've left calls w/her that i need help plus am out of what she DID refill! she has not returned my calls. i could be in trouble if i went off these cold-turkey (not only extremely unpleasant withdrawal symptoms but life-threatening.) not to mention the fact that no dr. i've seen so far is offering me anything to replace what i've gone off for little things, like MS, RSD, Fibro, and migraines (which are getting worse)! i'm trying to find a new primary care dr. but i'm having a difficult time doing so. is it ethical for a dr. just to say "you shouldn't be on these" and not help you with HOW safely to stop taking the meds?
namaste,
DamselFly

I remember there was one medicine that i had to be taken off of because it was damaging my liver big time. It was medicine for seizures and I had be carefully "weened" off the med and put back on the replacement drug. Now I have been to new primary care doctors who don't agree with the medicine the previou doctor had put me on but he/she always help me get off the med. I think that if a doctor wants you off a medicine that can have life threantening withdraw's then they should help with the withdraw. I hope this made sense since its 4am here[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

DomnNC · 04-04-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DamselFly

the primary care dr. i went to see when i first got here refused to refill most of the meds i was on from my previous primary care dr. so i've had to taper myself off as best i could. now, however, i'm running out of my pain meds, which are heavy-duty, and i really lack the expertise to taper myself off of these! i've left calls w/her that i need help plus am out of what she DID refill! she has not returned my calls. i could be in trouble if i went off these cold-turkey (not only extremely unpleasant withdrawal symptoms but life-threatening.) not to mention the fact that no dr. i've seen so far is offering me anything to replace what i've gone off for little things, like MS, RSD, Fibro, and migraines (which are getting worse)! i'm trying to find a new primary care dr. but i'm having a difficult time doing so. is it ethical for a dr. just to say "you shouldn't be on these" and not help you with HOW safely to stop taking the meds?
namaste,
DamselFly

Call your Dr's office and ask to speak to the Dr's nurse and go over all this with her. Most often you can get the nurse to return your call. Dr's for the most part do not return patients calls unless they've been your PCP for a long long period of time. Don't leave a message with the receptionist, chances are the Dr will never know you called.

Toughy · 04-04-2011, 12:29 PM

once again unethical and dangerous behavior from a clinician..........please call your state medical board and file a complaint as well as ask them for assistance and guidance.....

Miss Scarlett · 04-04-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DomnNC

Call your Dr's office and ask to speak to the Dr's nurse and go over all this with her. Most often you can get the nurse to return your call. Dr's for the most part do not return patients calls unless they've been your PCP for a long long period of time. Don't leave a message with the receptionist, chances are the Dr will never know you called.

This is excellent advice...especially about not leaving a message with the receptionist...i had a similar experience many years ago but with an endodontist...was having a lot of trouble following some root canals...every time i called the receptionist said the same thing..."Continue your warm water swishes..." Ended up just driving down to the office and demanding to see the dentist...that and the fact that my jaw looked like i had a softball in it finally got results.

What i'm trying to say is that you have to take some proactive steps - this isn't some favour they are doing for you. You are paying for this and by accepting you as a patient they have a duty and obligation to treat you and do so responsibly. i hate to suggest you change doctors again but you may have to do that. Have you tried contacting your former physician to ask for some help? It's worth a try.

Your profile says you are in Oklahoma. Here's the link to the Oklahoma Board of Medical Licensure and Supervision Complaint Procedures

cuddlyfemme · 04-06-2011, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Scarlett

This is excellent advice...especially about not leaving a message with the receptionist...i had a similar experience many years ago but with an endodontist...was having a lot of trouble following some root canals...every time i called the receptionist said the same thing..."Continue your warm water swishes..." Ended up just driving down to the office and demanding to see the dentist...that and the fact that my jaw looked like i had a softball in it finally got results.

What i'm trying to say is that you have to take some proactive steps - this isn't some favour they are doing for you. You are paying for this and by accepting you as a patient they have a duty and obligation to treat you and do so responsibly. i hate to suggest you change doctors again but you may have to do that. Have you tried contacting your former physician to ask for some help? It's worth a try.

Your profile says you are in Oklahoma. Here's the link to the Oklahoma Board of Medical Licensure and Supervision Complaint Procedures

I totally agree with not leaving a message with the receptionist. Its been my experience that the doctor (or nurse) never gets it. Luckily at my doctor's office there's a code you can push to talk directly to the nurse. I've also learned in my search for a doctor (have looked for alot of doctors in my time) is to make sure the doctor is Board Certified. I'm not sure why that is but its something many doctors and nurses have told me. Good luck!

DapperButch · 04-04-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DamselFly

the primary care dr. i went to see when i first got here refused to refill most of the meds i was on from my previous primary care dr. so i've had to taper myself off as best i could. now, however, i'm running out of my pain meds, which are heavy-duty, and i really lack the expertise to taper myself off of these! i've left calls w/her that i need help plus am out of what she DID refill! she has not returned my calls. i could be in trouble if i went off these cold-turkey (not only extremely unpleasant withdrawal symptoms but life-threatening.) not to mention the fact that no dr. i've seen so far is offering me anything to replace what i've gone off for little things, like MS, RSD, Fibro, and migraines (which are getting worse)! i'm trying to find a new primary care dr. but i'm having a difficult time doing so. is it ethical for a dr. just to say "you shouldn't be on these" and not help you with HOW safely to stop taking the meds?
namaste,
DamselFly

It surprises me to think that your PCP would not give you information as to how you should taper your medication. Perhaps you should consider calling the physician who prescribed the medication? That person should be able to give you some advice and would be the one responsible for making sure you have the medications you need until you find a PCP you are comfortable with.

Also, around here pain medication is handled by pain management doctors and not PCP physicians. These doctors specialize in making sure folks are not in pain, yet don't fall into addiction (which can happen to the best intentioned individual).

I sorry you are having a hard time. I can see how it would be frustrating. Good luck.

04-04-2011, 02:18 AM	#4
DamselFly Member How Do You Identify?: QueerStoneFemme Preferred Pronoun?: Ma'am or Damsel Relationship Status: single Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: hovering here and there Posts: 259 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,053 Thanked 771 Times in 199 Posts Rep Power: 396593	more problems w/dr.s.... the primary care dr. i went to see when i first got here refused to refill most of the meds i was on from my previous primary care dr. so i've had to taper myself off as best i could. now, however, i'm running out of my pain meds, which are heavy-duty, and i really lack the expertise to taper myself off of these! i've left calls w/her that i need help plus am out of what she DID refill! she has not returned my calls. i could be in trouble if i went off these cold-turkey (not only extremely unpleasant withdrawal symptoms but life-threatening.) not to mention the fact that no dr. i've seen so far is offering me anything to replace what i've gone off for little things, like MS, RSD, Fibro, and migraines (which are getting worse)! i'm trying to find a new primary care dr. but i'm having a difficult time doing so. is it ethical for a dr. just to say "you shouldn't be on these" and not help you with HOW safely to stop taking the meds? namaste, DamselFly __________________ so long as space remains so long as sentient beings remain i will remain in order to help, to serve, to make my own contribution (Buddhist prayer, a favorite of H.H.)

04-01-2011, 04:58 AM	#1
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Toughy Senior Member How Do You Identify?: pervert butch feminist woman Preferred Pronoun?: see above Relationship Status: independent entity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,826 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,068 Thanked 7,654 Times in 1,523 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	If a doctor treats you like an idiot, requires you to do what they say, then file a complaint with the local AMA.....there are methods for stopping abusive behavior by practioners. Call your local TV station......they usually have an investigative arm for this kind of thing. None of the behaviors or treatment described are ethical. It will not stop until consumers of their services stand up and report them. You are not a patient....you are a consumer and you have rights and responsibilities. Stop letting them abuse you. The Obama healthcare reform should help in stopping much of this kind of behavior. Stop taking that kind of crap. The doctor is part of a team that includes you in all decision making.

04-01-2011, 04:07 PM	#3
DomnNC Timed Out How Do You Identify?: Male Preferred Pronoun?: He/Him Relationship Status: Widow Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Permanently Banned 11/15/2011 Posts: 1,223 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,618 Thanked 2,582 Times in 837 Posts Rep Power: 0	Dr's do not have to accept you as a patient. They can refuse to treat you. If they couldn't refuse to treat you then the homeless, those without health insurance could go to the Dr of their choice and get treatment. Try getting treatment without money or insurance. I have no problem with my Dr, he's been my Dr for almost 30 years, we have a good relationship and he listens to me. He hates insurance companies with a passion so he talks about them quite often. Did you know that a lot of insurance companies now require a questionnaire to be sent when they bill for their services now asking questions like how involved the patient is in their care, do they follow their Dr's guidelines, take medications he recommends etcetcetc, why do you think they ask you all those questions when the nurse checks you in before the Dr comes in. If you aren't following your Dr's advice and taking the meds he recommends or other things he recommends it's the insurance companies who will stop paying for certain meds/treatment if your Dr has recommended changing them. My Dr told me this himself during one of his rants about insurance companies. edit: granted this was before reform and my mother's issue with a damn Dr was before reform.

04-04-2011, 12:29 PM	#7
Toughy Senior Member How Do You Identify?: pervert butch feminist woman Preferred Pronoun?: see above Relationship Status: independent entity Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,826 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 4,068 Thanked 7,654 Times in 1,523 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	once again unethical and dangerous behavior from a clinician..........please call your state medical board and file a complaint as well as ask them for assistance and guidance.....