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Old 06-18-2011, 06:16 PM   #1
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A femme always needs reassuring, it's not that she doesn't believe you....she just needs to know that she is still hot in your eyes.
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I don't think I acctually have to say anything to my woman, my eyes say it all. And yes, I know she belives in them...
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I don't think I acctually have to say anything to my woman, my eyes say it all. And yes, I know she belives in them...
Totally from my perspective...words always help

But, it's true...I always know the compliment is sincere when I can see that glow in their eyes....regardless of who it is from. You know...there's a difference in "you look nice honey" and "YOU ARE GORGEOUS!" *Smiling*
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Oh! And! It never hurts to change the compliments up from time to time.

I used to struggle with what to call my butch when she went to all sorts of trouble to look amazing..and I wanted her to know I noticed..and it worked! She ids female, so Handsome didn't feel right with her. Beautiful wasn't gonna cut it for her esteem. Finally, Striking rolled off my tongue..and it stuck. Now, I take my own advice and use other words, but I tend to stick to that safe middle ground where I don't feminize her (as a butch) and don't masculanize her (as a woman). So far, so good!

(does anyone find it interesting that "Feminize" is a word but "Masculanize" is not? And is my brain just too tired, or is there a better word out there??)
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hmmmm ....feminize, womanize....but no male id 'ize' words...


Anyway....YES! Mix it up .... & u look good or fine is never enough. Hott, sexy, beautiful.....looking at her & asking if we HAVE to go...lol all work
My favorite look on Sunshyne just gets a "can I just look at u?" Almost speechless response
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....(does anyone find it interesting that "Feminize" is a word but "Masculanize" is not? And is my brain just too tired, or is there a better word out there??)
Both are neologisms, artifacts from patriarchy. Why the need to genderize compliments when a simple you look amazing, awesome, delicious, breathtaking, terrific, lovely, etc. would do, and do much better.

There is a difference between a compliment and reassurance.
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I don't understand gendered compliments or insults. To me, everyone is equally beautiful or a slut
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She ids female, so Handsome didn't feel right with her. Beautiful wasn't gonna cut it for her esteem.
I know quite a few handsome women and beautiful butches. Yum.
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I agree with all of the above, just simply stating that for my butch handsome nor beautiful were right.
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I know quite a few handsome women and beautiful butches. Yum.
Exactly.

Hiya Heart.... Your post made me think about how the use and misuse of language shapes our self-concept, and our understanding of ourselves in the world, in overt and covert ways.

Gender training starts at birth. A zillion old and new studies confirm that: Boy and girl babies are spoken to and treated differently, described TO themselves differently, by care givers and the world around them. This profoundly affects self-perception; our understanding of who we are in a gendered world.

I often wonder how I might have evolved had I not been tagged a "tomboy" in childhood. I suspect I would have been spared certain inorganic experiences and freed to explore others that were more organic to me.

We become unwitting (if not witting) agents of dominant culture constructs/values when we use it's language to describe ourselves and one another.

As always, thanks for the thought provoking post, Heart.
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Exactly.

Hiya Heart.... Your post made me think about how the use and misuse of language shapes our self-concept, and our understanding of ourselves in the world, in overt and covert ways.

Gender training starts at birth. A zillion old and new studies confirm that: Boy and girl babies are spoken to and treated differently, described TO themselves differently, by care givers and the world around them. This profoundly affects self-perception; our understanding of who we are in a gendered world.

I often wonder how I might have evolved had I not been tagged a "tomboy" in childhood. I suspect I would have been spared certain inorganic experiences and freed to explore others that were more organic to me.

We become unwitting (if not witting) agents of dominant culture constructs/values when we use it's language to describe ourselves and one another.

As always, thanks for the thought provoking post, Heart.
SEXY isnt just a femme thing, because I know hot sexy butch women. However by that persons own definition of their sexuality, some ppl arent comfortable with some nouns or pro~nouns,that others may 'SAY' to describe who they see. All we have to say is ...im not comfortable when you call me ... or say to me, whatver it is your not comfy with. Does that make sense, to anyone, but me? cuz now I feel kinda dorky But with an opinion.
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A femme always needs reassuring, it's not that she doesn't believe you....she just needs to know that she is still hot in your eyes.
I realize this was posted a month ago but "A femme always needs reassuring"
is along the same lines as " butch's (and/or any gender id here) always need their ego stroked".

Both make me feel queezy and I'm surprised I'm the first to say anything.

True confidence to me, is an inside job.
Not to mention, "always needs reassuring" makes femme's sound weak ,frail, insecure ,brainless and quite exhausting to be with or around.

I hate the premise that any of us people here, are all the same.
The If you've done one, you've done them all mentality get's my goat
every time I see it.
I'm so not an expert on all things femme because fortunately they are all so different and that in itself is THE MOST fascinating thing (to me)
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Confident or not, we all need reassuring.

It's an inside job.
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Confident or not, we all need reassuring.

It's an inside job.
If you asked 20 people at my club, "who is the most confident person here" your replies would EXCLUSIVELY be "Laney" or "A" who is my best friend.

But having the appearance of confidence does not mean that I am not having a bad day b/c of work/illness/traffic or a myriad of other reasons. And when the world gets to be overwhelming, a kind compliment-especially a unique one is much appreciated. Even confident people like to hear that someone admires a certain quality about them, especially when that person is someone whose opinion we value OR when it is a complete stranger.

I went out a few years ago with a platonic friend of mine. We went to the local alt bar AFTER the party at the dungeon. It was easily 2 in the morning. But, as we were waiting to get in, she peered at me and said "your eyes look like works of art." She did not have to say that but she did and, despite her moving away, she will always have a special place in my heart.

About a year prior to that, a woman ahead of me in post-Christmas returns line at Wal-mart (a place that I hate by the way) made my night with a compliment. She told me that my eyes look like polished glass or gemstones. She took a stressful/tiring situation & turned it into a fond memory.

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Ya know....just as we ask the gentlemen to respect our femme space....

we should respect the Butch space. I'm not trying to be thread police

BUT, it is marked BUTCH zone and alot of us ladies are in here telling our

Butches what they should be talking about. Fair is fair.....just saying!
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If I read it correctly, I'm pretty sure that Merlin (OP) welcomed input from femmes. (post #2)
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we should respect the Butch space. I'm not trying to be thread police

BUT, it is marked BUTCH zone and alot of us ladies are in here telling our

Butches what they should be talking about. Fair is fair.....just saying!
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if thats the case, I appologize. I did not read all 64 posts. I read alot, and it was mostly femmes postings.

Sorry, as sorrys are do!


ETA:...Yes, post two says femme please apply. my bad!
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is along the same lines as " butch's (and/or any gender id here) always need their ego stroked".

Both make me feel queezy and I'm surprised I'm the first to say anything.

True confidence to me, is an inside job.
Not to mention, "always needs reassuring" makes femme's sound weak ,frail, insecure ,brainless and quite exhausting to be with or around.

I hate the premise that any of us people here, are all the same.
The If you've done one, you've done them all mentality get's my goat
every time I see it.
I'm so not an expert on all things femme because fortunately they are all so different and that in itself is THE MOST fascinating thing (to me)
Thanks, Dude. I don't know how I missed that quote, and I really appreciate you pointing it out and writing such a great response.
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You were maybe the first one to say anything b/c I only now stumbeled upon this thread. I must agree, I was pretty icked-out at the notion that "a femme always needs reassuring". I don't mean to personally criticize the OP, but IMO, that statement was rather a gigantic generalization, and not a very favorable one (although I don't necessarily think that was the intent of the OP). Just my two cents.

Now tell me you love me and that I'm pretty. ("Prettiest" would be even better ...)

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I realize this was posted a month ago but "A femme always needs reassuring"
is along the same lines as " butch's (and/or any gender id here) always need their ego stroked".

Both make me feel queezy and I'm surprised I'm the first to say anything.

True confidence to me, is an inside job.
Not to mention, "always needs reassuring" makes femme's sound weak ,frail, insecure ,brainless and quite exhausting to be with or around.

I hate the premise that any of us people here, are all the same.
The If you've done one, you've done them all mentality get's my goat
every time I see it.
I'm so not an expert on all things femme because fortunately they are all so different and that in itself is THE MOST fascinating thing (to me)
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