Head-Spinning Political Shit!

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by GoddessJess

I love how I can sit here and read so many different posts written so many different way and a lot of them say the same thing. Politics is a twisted game. I cant remember a single time when I remember hearing the truth...the first time around...It's always Oh I diddnt do it then...oh yea I did! It cracks me up. As far as republicans and democrats and liberals and the tea party (wich just the name cracks me up) they all have one common goal and thats their own agendas! Gay rights, abortion, the markets, the economy these are all touchy subjects, I think they just try to find the touchiest of them all, wich seems to be sexting latly, find the biggest affected crowd and then side with them! It's like a sick cat and mouse game...under what egg will the attention fall today?
Prisions are overcrowded, hell yes they are...rehab services?? I have known a lot of people that went to rehab and well they diddnt turn out so great!
My idea..in all my infinite wisdom...PUT THEM TO WORK!
give them tents and stick them someplace where there is work to be done! build something, clear something hell for once in your life do something that the tax payers are paying for anyways!
I love that guy in AZ that stuck them all in pink and made them work for a living!
I'm just sayin!

Are you serious or is this a bit of tongue in cheek?

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Toughy

Are you serious or is this a bit of tongue in cheek?

After this long in these communities, do you really need to ask that question, my friend?

Cheers
Aj

[Toughy]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

After this long in these communities, do you really need to ask that question, my friend?

Cheers
Aj

laughin.......I know I know.......but in the spirit of community building I thought I would ask...

it does appear she has been drinking

[Toughy]

SCOTUS is at it again:

Wal-Mart wins Supreme Court sex-bias ruling

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110620/...almart_lawsuit

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Toughy

SCOTUS is at it again:

Wal-Mart wins Supreme Court sex-bias ruling

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110620/...almart_lawsuit

Can we just declare ourselves a corporate theocracy and get it over with? Please? The suspense is killing me!

Cheers
Aj

[AtLast]

Now, here is a blog that represents the worst of the worst in the homophobic poliotical realm- And this article is centered on the B-F dynamic specifically!

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpres...mme-sodomites/

[Andrea]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Now, here is a blog that represents the worst of the worst in the homophobic poliotical realm- And this article is centered on the B-F dynamic specifically!

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpres...mme-sodomites/

At first I was laughing at the shear stupidity of this and then my stomach started turning and the laughing stopped.

Andrea

[Novelafemme]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Now, here is a blog that represents the worst of the worst in the homophobic poliotical realm- And this article is centered on the B-F dynamic specifically!

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpres...mme-sodomites/

Oh dear. I have no words.

[T D]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Now, here is a blog that represents the worst of the worst in the homophobic poliotical realm- And this article is centered on the B-F dynamic specifically!

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpres...mme-sodomites/

Talk about offensive!!!! *wow*

This is one of those things that's so outrageously offensive it took a minute to really believe it was said.

[Liam]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Now, here is a blog that represents the worst of the worst in the homophobic poliotical realm- And this article is centered on the B-F dynamic specifically!

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpres...mme-sodomites/

They misquoted their own Bible, poor ignorant Baptists. How convenient that they left out liars and slanderers. How come liars can get married in a church, and queers can't? I don't get it.

[Melissa]

Originally Posted by AtLastHome

Now, here is a blog that represents the worst of the worst in the homophobic poliotical realm- And this article is centered on the B-F dynamic specifically!

http://baptistsforbrown2008.wordpres...mme-sodomites/

This is a satire site. Click on some of the links. The link to the no sin zone is a hoot.

Melissa

[dreadgeek]

Originally Posted by Toughy

laughin.......I know I know.......but in the spirit of community building I thought I would ask...

it does appear she has been drinking

It's funny because every few days I see or read some quote or hear someone on the news espousing this or that position and I think "oh, so THAT is what the death of a republic sounds like". The really sad thing is if we lose our republic, we will have done this to ourselves--slowly, surely, incrementally we have inflicted the many wounds our country is suffering on ourselves. As tempting as it might be to blame the Arabs, or the Muslims, or the Japanese, or the Chinese, or Latinos or the French, this is largely a nightmare of our own making.

No Arab convinced Americans that trial by jury, rights of the accused, right to be informed of your rights, right to face your accusers, or the right of habeus corpus was an inconvenience or stupid or a waste of time and taxpayer money. WE did that. In not remembering WHY the cops have to read you your Miranda rights, we decided that it was just another example of our 'coddling' criminals by telling them that they have the right to remain silent in the face of police questioning.

No Muslim convinced Americans that cruel and inhumane punishment is a sign of barbarism and that torture is both cruel and inhumane.

No Japanese convinced Americans that it would be better to slay a thousand innocents, wrongly accused, than to allow a single guilty man walk free instead of what had traditionally been the idea upheld in this country that better a thousand guilty men walk free than that a single innocent man be killed in the name of justice.

No Chinese convinced Americans that our prisons should be places that would be very recognizable to people in the Soviet Union or should put one in mind of a medieval jail.

No Frenchman convinced Americans that things like public education, prisons or any of a number of other pieces of societal infrastructure would be better provided by corporations.

No, the worst things facing our nation, the things that keep me up at night, are almost all self-inflicted.

Cheers
Aj

[Glenn]

[QUOTE=dreadgeek;362280]It's funny because every few days I see or read some quote or hear someone on the news espousing this or that position and I think "oh, so THAT is what the death of a republic sounds like". The really sad thing is if we lose our republic, we will have done this to ourselves--slowly, surely, incrementally we have inflicted the many wounds our country is suffering on ourselves.

+1 Correct.
Seems like we are acting like romans just before the fall. . Sometimes I see the futility of it all and just say f*** it.

[dreadgeek]

[quote=popcorninthesofa;362291]

Originally Posted by dreadgeek

It's funny because every few days I see or read some quote or hear someone on the news espousing this or that position and I think "oh, so THAT is what the death of a republic sounds like". The really sad thing is if we lose our republic, we will have done this to ourselves--slowly, surely, incrementally we have inflicted the many wounds our country is suffering on ourselves.

+1 Correct.
Seems like we are acting like romans just before the fall. . Sometimes I see the futility of it all and just say f*** it.

I understand the sentiment. What pulls me back is I take a look at my granddaughter and realize that she deserves better than a nation that decided that of all the possible models of criminal justice to use, a Soviet-style gulag would be best. My little princess deserves much, much better than that.

Cheers
Aj

[dreadgeek]

I wonder how long it will take for Americans to decide that being a constitutional republic is just too demanding and that perhaps, we should have a less open, less republican form of government and go for something with a lot less emphasis on messy legal niceties like the rights of citizens, avoidance of cruel or unusual punishment, or social cohesion. I ponder this because in the last couple of decades I've seen a lot of anti-republican talk and it appears to be increasing.

Consider that non-trivial numbers of citizens now think that trial by jury, the accused having rights, the police having to follow rules, warrants for searches and prisons that are not concentration camps are undesirable things. Consider that non-trivial numbers of citizens believe that the First Amendment, particularly the parts of freedom of conscience (religion), does not apply to Muslims. Consider that non-trivial numbers of citizens believe that Article VI, Section III of the Constitution which states, in part, "..no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States" does not apply to Muslims and may not apply to atheists either. Consider that non-trivial numbers of citizens believe that torture is acceptable. Lastly, consider that vast numbers, perhaps even majority given the way we dialog about politics, think that they get to have their own facts and that facts and opinions are synonymous (they aren't).

Now, it may be the case that it all adds up to nothing at all but if *I* were either a Muslim or Hispanic I would probably have one eye on the exits at this point. Any one of those items taken in isolation would be disconcerting, all of them taken together and then considered in the light that one major party espouses ALL of the above and it doesn't look good.

Cheers
Aj