Transgendered Furry Slave

tapu · 07-05-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Lady_Snow

Um Tapu I never gave your kid a thought, I was refering to OP's nephew not Tapu's kid, what's your deal?

Huh? No, I meant where you said "children" need to learn about transgendering. I'm saying I totally agree and that mine does learn these things. But I'm saying that the general thing right for 'children" is not appropriate NOW in the situation with this child who is going to other relatives with his pain.

We're cool, I believe. Yes?

The_Lady_Snow · 07-05-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tapu

Huh? No, I meant where you said "children" need to learn about transgendering. I'm saying I totally agree and that mine does learn these things. But I'm saying that the general thing right for 'children" is not appropriate NOW in the situation with this child who is going to other relatives with his pain.

We're cool, I believe. Yes?

Shit Tapu at this point I'm confused!!! Thanks for clarifying though

kannon · 07-05-2011, 06:56 PM

Okie,
That age is very difficult. I’m sure the boy is embarrassed to deal with someone and something that is so out of the normal range of behavior. From the very limited amount of information you’ve provided, I would suggest discussing the issue with the mom and the dad. Maybe they can figure out what is really going on here.
It's just that your nephew is embarrassed to be seen with them, right? Maybe the child can openly discuss what’s going on with him. He can tell his dad he’s embarrassed and would rather not go out in public with them. Maybe his dad would make some concessions if he realizes how embarrassed and unprepared the child is to deal with this.
Would you be okay with your nephew spending time with the dad and partner if the child is okay with it?

kannon · 07-05-2011, 07:09 PM

The definition I found at urban dictionary:

Ok, an attempt at a balanced definition. I am NOT a furry but both sides hear me out before reaching for that thumbs down.

Furries are a relatively recent phenomenon which has been catapulted into near-mainstreamness almost solely because of the internet. It is obvious furries are very much victims of tarring the majority with the brush of an "unappealing" minority.

In the simplest sense furries are fans of anthropromorphic animals. That is, animals with human like features or tendencies (Fox McCloud, Sonic the Hedgehog... etc) pretty much all furries will create their own character or "fursona" for use as an art model and roleplaying, the designs of which vary wildly dependant on the artists skill and eye for contrasting colours (You get both amazing and appalling furry artists, and a wide skill range between these two) some furries can work wonders when it comes to creating a character on second life

The above paragraph is an apt description of your standard "furry", however there is a small but VERY vocal minority of the "yiff yiff" kind of division. Even though this sort of furry probably only takes up 1/10th of the fandom this is by FAR the type you hear about most often from anti-furry biased sources.

Furry porn is dangerously close to bestiality. Sorry to anyone who likes it, but it is... However the ones who like it seem to be in a minority, with the ones ...

Andrea · 07-05-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kannon

The definition I found at urban dictionary:

Ok, an attempt at a balanced definition. I am NOT a furry but both sides hear me out before reaching for that thumbs down.

Furries are a relatively recent phenomenon which has been catapulted into near-mainstreamness almost solely because of the internet. It is obvious furries are very much victims of tarring the majority with the brush of an "unappealing" minority.

In the simplest sense furries are fans of anthropromorphic animals. That is, animals with human like features or tendencies (Fox McCloud, Sonic the Hedgehog... etc) pretty much all furries will create their own character or "fursona" for use as an art model and roleplaying, the designs of which vary wildly dependant on the artists skill and eye for contrasting colours (You get both amazing and appalling furry artists, and a wide skill range between these two) some furries can work wonders when it comes to creating a character on second life

The above paragraph is an apt description of your standard "furry", however there is a small but VERY vocal minority of the "yiff yiff" kind of division. Even though this sort of furry probably only takes up 1/10th of the fandom this is by FAR the type you hear about most often from anti-furry biased sources.

Furry porn is dangerously close to bestiality. Sorry to anyone who likes it, but it is... However the ones who like it seem to be in a minority, with the ones ...

Thank you for this definition. I have bolded a particular section in the hopes that the multiple people who made comments in reps to me about furries being about sex will read it and understand it isn't always (and based on this definition is rarely) about sex.

Please, please don't be the type of person who equates leather, cross dressing, same sex love, furries, etc with being only about sex. It may be only about sex for some, and may be only about sex for you, but it is not only about sex for all.

kannon · 07-05-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrea

Thank you for this definition. I have bolded a particular section in the hopes that the multiple people who made comments in reps to me about furries being about sex will read it and understand it isn't always (and based on this definition is rarely) about sex.

Please, please don't be the type of person who equates leather, cross dressing, same sex love, furries, etc with being only about sex. It may be only about sex for some, and may be only about sex for you, but it is not only about sex for all.

No, I definitely don't equate sex with any alternative lifestyle. I don't even think sexual fetishes are "bad." To each his own.

Sometimes I worry about making someone else uncomfortable because I'm trans-identified. My friends tell me it's not my job to make other people ok or comfortable with how I look as long as I treat them with respect and dignity. I'm sure people assume I'm a sexual deviant. They have a right to their opinion.

bright_arrow · 07-05-2011, 09:29 PM

I have a friend who is into the furry scene, and it was explained to me as such:

Furries dress up as an animal they want to be (he wants to be a fox, for example.)
Some people dress sexually, and for some it is a sexual fetish.
However, for the most part, it is about dressing up and socializing with others that are furry as well. The ones that make it sexual - that is of their own choosing - it was not intended to be sexual.

Furry does not equal sexual fetish.

As for the furry porn.. I myself am a fan of Sailor Moon - and have come across porn while searching for images. It's not originally intended as porn, but people will make what they will. So, not all furry illustrations are porn.

I can say I went through a phase in school wearing collars - and it wouldn't surprise me to see someone with a tail on - that doesn't mean slavery or furry. It wasn't a lifestyle - it was a way of dress, and in no way sexual.

My point is this: The manner of how the slave dresses is an embarrassment, yes, but it seems just that. It's not abusive. People may point, but people may point at a lot of things.

I'm not sure about what goes on in the house - I saw something about waiting hand and foot, referring to him as 'Master' - I view that separately from the manner of how the slave dresses. I have no comment on that, and without knowing it all, I still could have no comment - it's not my life.

I just wanted to try and clarify that furry does not mean sexual fetish for everyone else in the furry scene, so saying the collar&tail is purely sexual and therefore forcing a sexual nature on the child is not the case. As far as the other stuff - I have no comment.

I hope that made sense and I didn't reiterate an awful lot. My .02 cents is in and I now bow out.

07-05-2011, 07:09 PM	#4
kannon Member How Do You Identify?: bloke Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Happy is the heart that believes in angels Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Land of Milk and Honey Posts: 884 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,920 Thanked 2,066 Times in 584 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	The definition I found at urban dictionary: Ok, an attempt at a balanced definition. I am NOT a furry but both sides hear me out before reaching for that thumbs down. Furries are a relatively recent phenomenon which has been catapulted into near-mainstreamness almost solely because of the internet. It is obvious furries are very much victims of tarring the majority with the brush of an "unappealing" minority. In the simplest sense furries are fans of anthropromorphic animals. That is, animals with human like features or tendencies (Fox McCloud, Sonic the Hedgehog... etc) pretty much all furries will create their own character or "fursona" for use as an art model and roleplaying, the designs of which vary wildly dependant on the artists skill and eye for contrasting colours (You get both amazing and appalling furry artists, and a wide skill range between these two) some furries can work wonders when it comes to creating a character on second life The above paragraph is an apt description of your standard "furry", however there is a small but VERY vocal minority of the "yiff yiff" kind of division. Even though this sort of furry probably only takes up 1/10th of the fandom this is by FAR the type you hear about most often from anti-furry biased sources. Furry porn is dangerously close to bestiality. Sorry to anyone who likes it, but it is... However the ones who like it seem to be in a minority, with the ones ... Last edited by kannon; 07-05-2011 at 07:10 PM. Reason: adding

07-05-2011, 06:56 PM	#3
kannon Member How Do You Identify?: bloke Preferred Pronoun?: He Relationship Status: Happy is the heart that believes in angels Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Land of Milk and Honey Posts: 884 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 1,920 Thanked 2,066 Times in 584 Posts Rep Power: 21474852	Okie, That age is very difficult. I’m sure the boy is embarrassed to deal with someone and something that is so out of the normal range of behavior. From the very limited amount of information you’ve provided, I would suggest discussing the issue with the mom and the dad. Maybe they can figure out what is really going on here. It's just that your nephew is embarrassed to be seen with them, right? Maybe the child can openly discuss what’s going on with him. He can tell his dad he’s embarrassed and would rather not go out in public with them. Maybe his dad would make some concessions if he realizes how embarrassed and unprepared the child is to deal with this. Would you be okay with your nephew spending time with the dad and partner if the child is okay with it?

07-05-2011, 09:29 PM	#7
bright_arrow ☆ the stars are aligned ☆ How Do You Identify?: one queer mama Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: married to my Boo Daddy <3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: nor cal Posts: 2,910 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,644 Thanked 9,363 Times in 2,296 Posts Rep Power: 21474854	I have a friend who is into the furry scene, and it was explained to me as such: Furries dress up as an animal they want to be (he wants to be a fox, for example.) Some people dress sexually, and for some it is a sexual fetish. However, for the most part, it is about dressing up and socializing with others that are furry as well. The ones that make it sexual - that is of their own choosing - it was not intended to be sexual. Furry does not equal sexual fetish. As for the furry porn.. I myself am a fan of Sailor Moon - and have come across porn while searching for images. It's not originally intended as porn, but people will make what they will. So, not all furry illustrations are porn. I can say I went through a phase in school wearing collars - and it wouldn't surprise me to see someone with a tail on - that doesn't mean slavery or furry. It wasn't a lifestyle - it was a way of dress, and in no way sexual. My point is this: The manner of how the slave dresses is an embarrassment, yes, but it seems just that. It's not abusive. People may point, but people may point at a lot of things. I'm not sure about what goes on in the house - I saw something about waiting hand and foot, referring to him as 'Master' - I view that separately from the manner of how the slave dresses. I have no comment on that, and without knowing it all, I still could have no comment - it's not my life. I just wanted to try and clarify that furry does not mean sexual fetish for everyone else in the furry scene, so saying the collar&tail is purely sexual and therefore forcing a sexual nature on the child is not the case. As far as the other stuff - I have no comment. I hope that made sense and I didn't reiterate an awful lot. My .02 cents is in and I now bow out.