Here come the lesbians, here come the leaping lesbians...

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Kobi, just trying to understand your very interesting second point post.

Butch and Femme will be obsolete? Do you think those of us who ID as Butch Lesbians should change to be men and Femme Lesbians should try and change to appeal to straight men or to be closer to center...in Kansas or Wyoming?

Because to me it sounds like yet again feminine women have no place in Queer society which is business as usual.

Not arguing, just wanting to understand how you see this all playing out to its logical conclusion.

I think you misunderstood me.

I dont think anyone has to change who they are. Being recognized for who people are is the gist of this entire scenario to me. We all want to celebrate and live as the people we know ourselves to be. We all want our diversity to be respected and appreciated. We all want to be a recognized part of the whole.

The format, in my opinion, is going to have to change to accomodate the new reality and all it entails. And it is going to have to become non-binary in order to achieve that. It will be interesting to see what the outcome looks like.

Feminine women will always have a place in queer whatever. Female and male id butches love em, transmen love em, cismen love em, other women love em. What would we do without them?

Did you know the most central point in the lower 48 is in Smith County, Kansas, 158 miles NW of Topeka, near Lebanon? http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/KS3129/

So, is masculine of center to the left or the right?

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Kobi

I think you misunderstood me.

I dont think anyone has to change who they are. Being recognized for who people are is the gist of this entire scenario to me. We all want to celebrate and live as the people we know ourselves to be. We all want our diversity to be respected and appreciated. We all want to be a recognized part of the whole.

The format, in my opinion, is going to have to change to accommodate the new reality and all it entails. And it is going to have to become non-binary in order to achieve that. It will be interesting to see what the outcome looks like.

Feminine women will always have a place in queer whatever. Female and male id butches love em, transmen love em, cismen love em, other women love em. What would we do without them?

Did you know the most central point in the lower 48 is in Smith County, Kansas, 158 miles NW of Topeka, near Lebanon? http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/KS3129/

So, is masculine of center to the left or the right?

Thank you for answering, I was so confused lol.

So if we make this discussion into a radio station, you are saying we need to go to one station top 40 of all genres, not into individual teeny genre stations?

I agree that everything is changing so quickly, it is very interesting!

For some reason I was thinking of masculine of center being on the left. I wonder why?

[Kobi]

Originally Posted by apocalipstic

Thank you for answering, I was so confused lol.

So if we make this discussion into a radio station, you are saying we need to go to one station top 40 of all genres, not into individual teeny genre stations?

I agree that everything is changing so quickly, it is very interesting!

For some reason I was thinking of masculine of center being on the left. I wonder why?

If this discussion was a radio station, I would be saying get Sirius Satellite Radio! We are not in Kansas anymore. It's is a global world out there.

Left? I always equate masculine with the right.

[Apocalipstic]

Originally Posted by Kobi

If this discussion was a radio station, I would be saying get Sirius Satellite Radio! We are not in Kansas anymore. It's is a global world out there.

Left? I always equate masculine with the right.

When I was looking at the map, my eyes went left. Weird. lol
I am sure it means something epimystical.

Glad I asked, I thought you were saying do away with Sirius.