Breaking the Spell: Rethinking queer community

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Actually we were married legally in Canada. I don't care one way or the other, if it doesn't make any since to you, that isn't my goal. I'm not going to live my life in fear or in what ifs', that is a total waste of energy. Go convince the Idiot party that you want your rights, they don't care about you, they don't care about me, the only thing they care about is their racist, sexist, classist small minded grasp of their own small patch of Americana.

Trust me I've been fighting this war longer than you've been alive.

So, is your answer just to stop the fight? Do you feel it's a fight that will never be won? I'm just asking for clarity here.

[Corkey]

I live in the US, and Drew, fighting idiots doesn't get us anywhere, there are no sane republicans left to argue with.

[SecretAgentMa'am]

Originally Posted by Corkey

I live in the US, and Drew, fighting idiots doesn't get us anywhere, there are no sane republicans left to argue with.

Okay, then my point stands. You're married in Canada, but you live in the US. That means you don't get the benefits that come with marriage. In the place where you live, you marriage is not recognized as valid, and wishing doesn't make it so. So where does that leave us?

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by Corkey

I live in the US, and Drew, fighting idiots doesn't get us anywhere, there are no sane republicans left to argue with.

I agree that the republican tea-party idiots won't ever be swayed. But they are a small minority of the voting public. They get lots of press because of their crazy antics, and republican politicians have to cowtow to them if they want to be elected or stay in office. But the vast majority of people can be swayed if we work hard to educate them. We have to counter the voices of the extreme right. They scream the loudest so they get all the press. We need to bring another voice to the discussion. Do you feel that that is a fight worth fighting?

[Toughy]

I forgot.............

The greatest enemy of all enemies..........the one that must be overcome at all costs......

violence

What a vast difference there is between the barbarism that precedes culture and the barbarism that follows it.
-- Friedrich Hebbel

the violence in my own mind is my greatest enemy

[citybutch]

I agree with you that they are cow-towed to.... but the question is why? Take a look at the Koch brothers (and Karl Rove for that matter) who fund the Tea Party. With the amount of money they have, the commitment to eliminate taxes for the super wealthy (and I am not talking about the rich because $250,000 income for a small business owner is an WHOLE other topic), and time time time on their hands to dig their heels in deeper to accomplish what they want to. I am hoping we can combat this... With corporations as "persons" now, we are going to have a tough road.

Take the recall in Wisconsin for example.. and the variance in funding between the dems and the repubs:

http://www.thedailypage.com/daily/ar...?article=34206

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...e-recalls.html

Originally Posted by atomiczombie

I agree that the republican tea-party idiots won't ever be swayed. But they are a small minority of the voting public. They get lots of press because of their crazy antics, and republican politicians have to cowtow to them if they want to be elected or stay in office. But the vast majority of people can be swayed if we work hard to educate them. We have to counter the voices of the extreme right. They scream the loudest so they get all the press. We need to bring another voice to the discussion. Do you feel that that is a fight worth fighting?