OCCUPY WALL STREET

[SoNotHer]

Martin Luther King, Jr.:

"In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, as 'right-to-work.' It provides no 'rights' and no 'works.' Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining... We demand this fraud be stopped." —Speaking on right-to-work laws in 1961

Dwight D. Eisenhower:

"Only a fool would try to deprive working men and working women of their right to join the union of their choice."

Jimmy Carter:

"Every advance in this half-century: Social Security, civil rights, Medicare, aid to education... one after another - came with the support and leadership of American Labor."

Molly Ivins:

"Although it is true that only about 20 percent of American workers are in unions, that 20 percent sets the standards across the board in salaries, benefits and working conditions. If you are making a decent salary in a non-union company, you owe that to the unions. One thing that corporations do not do is give out money out of the goodness of their hearts."

Recall Walker and Stand Up for Wisconsin:

"Screw us, and we multiply."

[Shadowboi2010]

I was glad to read the opening creed on this thread. I'm glad to know what this is all about. I've been out of town for the past week, so I've just been getting the spin the news puts on it.

Some of the opening points I agree with, some I don't. I reckon its like anything else.

Thank you for posting it!

[Cin]

5 Conservative Economic Myths Occupy Wall St. Is Helping Bust

1. Business does everything better than government.

2. Rich people are “job creators.”

3. Government and taxes take money out of the economy.

4. Regulations Kill Jobs

5. “Protectionism” hurts the economy.

Here's the article:

http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst...t/?page=entire

[PumaJ]

Dance break during Occupy Portland/OWS

[Cin]

I've been wondering what path those with power will take to sabotage OWS. I mean this can't go on unchecked. Unless, as Heart alluded to in an earlier post, the timing of this will be seen as a way to ensure a republican victory in 2012. I suppose plants that challenge the police and cause confrontations will be part of the plan. Escalating the violence perpetrated against the protestors by the police using plants to instigate will work well and will allow mainstream america to shrug it off as the protestors getting what they deserve. Hopefully nothing too drastic will take place, but if it does let's hope they employ exceedingly stupid infiltrators like this assistant editor of the American Spectator who could not keep his mouth shut about his actions and the reasons behind them.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/11-3

[SoNotHer]

I've been wondering the same, Miss Tick, and waiting for the "other shoe to drop."

Tapu posted a link to a Fox (horrors!) news report that began with long quotes in response to OWS by Cain and Cantor, which necessarily condemned the movement in snarly words.

But here's the positive take away of this: they're paying attention, and they're nervous. And I am hopeful that transmutes into the kind of change we have needed to work in concert with the President's initiatives.

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

I've been wondering what path those with power will take to sabotage OWS. I mean this can't go on unchecked. Unless, as Heart alluded to in an earlier post, the timing of this will be seen as a way to ensure a republican victory in 2012. I suppose plants that challenge the police and cause confrontations will be part of the plan. Escalating the violence perpetrated against the protestors by the police using plants to instigate will work well and will allow mainstream america to shrug it off as the protestors getting what they deserve. Hopefully nothing too drastic will take place, but if it does let's hope they employ exceedingly stupid infiltrators like this assistant editor of the American Spectator who could not keep his mouth shut about his actions and the reasons behind them.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/11-3

[Cin]

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

I've been wondering the same, Miss Tick, and waiting for the "other shoe to drop."

Tapu posted a link to a Fox (horrors!) news report that began with long quotes in response to OWS by Cain and Cantor, which necessarily condemned the movement in snarly words.

But here's the positive take away of this: they're paying attention, and they're nervous. And I am hopeful that transmutes into the kind of change we have needed to work in concert with the President's initiatives.

Absolutely. I'm all for positives. And there are many here. And watching our backs is also positive. I'm sure there are things that can be done, especially mentally, to prepare for these kinds of probable attacks during a protest. I'm sure organizers are aware and have anticipated this. No one could believe that the 1% is unprepared.

[Novelafemme]

Originally Posted by PumaJ

Dance break during Occupy Portland/OWS

This is awesome, PumaJ!! I would totally be out there bustin' a move with them

[Novelafemme]

[Corkey]

Is this from a protest or is it something else? It appears that they are at the mall, yes I used to live there, and the cops have APC's for SWAT, the pics are not coherent. Could you give some perspective on this?

[Cin]

Originally Posted by Corkey

Is this from a protest or is it something else? It appears that they are at the mall, yes I used to live there, and the cops have APC's for SWAT, the pics are not coherent. Could you give some perspective on this?

I stumbled across this article while reading stuff online. I don't know why Ventura California is using armored vehicles or IF they are or really what is going on. It does say ventura police on the vehicle. Here is the link http://uswgo.com/ventura-ca-police-u...he-streets.htm

I thought it was interesting, but I don't know the law about armored vehicles and the police or if there is one. Perhaps police departments often use armored vehicles. They certainly used them in Pittsburgh during the G20 summit. I don't remember seeing them before though. But that doesn't mean it isn't a usual thing. It seems scary though. What do police departments need armored vehicles for?

They are at the mall? Is it usual for armed vehicles with Ventura Police on them to be at the mall? Even if there is a protest or whatever. I mean do police departments have armored vehicles?

[ruffryder]

Occupy Wall Street goes global. Arrests in Rome as people fight with the police. hmmm. . I am wondering if people are just using all this Occupy protesting as a way to show their anger on everything they are upset about and cause violence. no bueno.

[citybutch]

[Corkey]

http://www.businessinsider.com/occup...hering-2011-10

Plans for a coordinated national gathering.

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by Corkey

http://www.businessinsider.com/occup...hering-2011-10

Plans for a coordinated national gathering.

I'm gonna post the list of plans from your link:

1. The Occupy Wall Street movement, through the local general assembly, should elect an executive committee comprised of 11 people or some other odd number of people that is manageable for meetings. Ideally this committee should represent each city in the U.S. that is being occupied.
2. The executive committee will then attend to local issues such as obtaining permits, paying for public sanitation and dealing with the media. More important, the executive committee shall plan and organize the election of the 870 delegates to a National General Assembly between now and July 4, 2012.
3. As stated in the 99% declaration, each of the 435 congressional districts will form an election committee to prepare ballots and invite citizens in those districts to run as delegates to a National General Assembly in Philadelphia beginning on July 4, 2012 and convening until October 2012.
4. Each of the 435 congressional districts will elect one man and one woman to attend the National General Assembly. The vote will be by direct democratic ballot regardless of voter registration status as long as the voter has reached the age of 18 and is a US citizen. This is not a sexist provision. Women are dramatically under-represented in politics even though they comprise more than 50% of the U.S. population.
5. The executive committee will act as a central point to solve problems, raise money to pay for the expenses of the election of the National General Assembly and make sure all 870 delegates are elected prior to the meeting on July 4th.
6. The executive committee would also arrange a venue in Philadelphia to accommodate the delegates attending the National General Assembly where the declaration of values, petition of grievances and platform would be proposed, debated, voted on and approved. The delegates would also elect a chair from their own ranks to run the meetings of the congress and break any tie votes. We will also need the expertise of a gifted parliamentarian to keep the meetings moving smoothly and efficiently.
7. The final declaration, platform and petition of grievances, after being voted upon by the 870 delegates to the National General Assembly would be formally presented by the 870 delegates to all three branches of government and all candidates running for federal public office in November 2012. Thus, the delegates would meet from July 4, 2012 to sometime in early to late October 2012.
8. The delegates to the National General Assembly would then vote on a time period, presently suggested as one year, to give the newly elected government in November an opportunity to redress the petition of grievances. This is our right as a People under the First Amendment.
9. If the government fails to redress the petition of grievances and drastically change the path this country is on, the delegates will demand the resignation and recall of all members of congress, the president and even the Supreme Court and call for new elections by, of and for the PEOPLE with 99 days of the resignation demand.
10. There will NEVER be any call for violence by the delegates even if the government refuses to redress the grievances and new elections are called for by the delegates. Nor will any delegate agree to take any money, job promise, or gifts from corporations, unions or any other private source. Any money donated or raised by the executive committee may only be used for publicizing the vote, the National General Assembly, and for travel expenses and accommodation at the National General Assembly ONLY. All books and records will be published openly online so that everyone may see how much money is raised and how the money is spent each month. There will be no money allowed to "purchase" delegate votes as we have in the current government. No corporate "sponsorship".

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by citybutch

LOVE IT!!!

[Gráinne]

I'm staying apart from this, seeing how it's going to pan out. There are some reports of anti-Semitism sneaking in, i.e. "the Jews control Wall Street" and the old saw of Jews=greedy and cheap. I don't know enough about exactly who is demonstrating or if they represent my beliefs.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...treet-movement

[Glenn]

Alot of those angry and poor Italians realize that a CEO's world works much like the Mafia. For example, how does a recent college grad become a VP in a major corporation when all the others have worked just as hard to qualify? It's because her/his family or friend of the family knew the Don who started the corporation, and greased the skids for that kid to go sliding. I think MOST people who are in the 1% make it from the inside through CONNECTIONS not qualifications. One kid spent 1.5 mil on a Bugatti after the Corp. gets 20mil. in funding, and the VP or Don looks the other way because her/his father is on the board. Then a few innocent programers have to get fired because of mismanagement which is never admitted. This is how their world works sometimes.
So, anyone on the outside should be pissed, because if your not on the inside, you may get left out in the cold. If anything, I think the poor should be angrier.

Originally Posted by ruffryder

Occupy Wall Street goes global. Arrests in Rome as people fight with the police. hmmm. . I am wondering if people are just using all this Occupy protesting as a way to show their anger on everything they are upset about and cause violence. no bueno.

[Cin]

This would actually be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad!

VIDEO: 24 Arrested at Citibank for Attempting to Move Their Money?

As part of Saturday's global day of action against Wall Street and corporate power, in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement, protesters in New York and elsewhere organized groups to go to the major banks to withdraw their money.

The day started off smoothly, with a group of people organized by the Labor Outreach working group from Occupy Wall Street arriving at a Chase bank to withdraw their money. Chase went off without a hitch, but by the time the protesters made it to a Citibank branch there was trouble.

The video below shows people being locked inside a Citi branch, and then forcibly arrested. The charge, reportedly, is "criminal trespass." For trying to withdraw your own money from a bank?

They might have temporarily been halted from removing their money, but one would have to think that as soon as they get out, they'll return even angrier than before. Not a good customer retention strategy, Citibank

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by Miss Tick

This would actually be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad!

VIDEO: 24 Arrested at Citibank for Attempting to Move Their Money?

As part of Saturday's global day of action against Wall Street and corporate power, in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement, protesters in New York and elsewhere organized groups to go to the major banks to withdraw their money.

The day started off smoothly, with a group of people organized by the Labor Outreach working group from Occupy Wall Street arriving at a Chase bank to withdraw their money. Chase went off without a hitch, but by the time the protesters made it to a Citibank branch there was trouble.

The video below shows people being locked inside a Citi branch, and then forcibly arrested. The charge, reportedly, is "criminal trespass." For trying to withdraw your own money from a bank?

They might have temporarily been halted from removing their money, but one would have to think that as soon as they get out, they'll return even angrier than before. Not a good customer retention strategy, Citibank

Oh dear lord... that is bullshit. I hope they go to court and that tape is used as evidence.