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Old 10-18-2011, 08:08 AM   #1
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The saddest part about the cost of war one is that all of that money isn't worth the life lost in fighting these bullshit wars. That includes both sides.
Ain't that the truth. Here's another Zinn quote that speaks to the moment and speaks to how in the world we got to the place where we need to fight fruitless, expensive, devastating war after war:

"The year of the massacre at Wounded Knee, 1890, it was officially declared by the Bureau of the Census that the internal frontier was closed. The profit system, with its natural tendency for expansion, had already begun to look overseas. The severe depression that began in 1893 strengthened an idea developing within the political and financial elite of the country: that overseas markets for American goods might relieve the problem of underconsumption at home and prevent the economic crises that in the 1890s brought class war.

And would not a foreign adventure deflect some of the rebellious energy that went into strikes and protest movements toward an external enemy? Would it not unite people with government, with the armed forces, instead of against them? This was probably not a conscious plan among most of the elite -- but a natural development from the twin drives of capitalism and nationalism."

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Old 10-18-2011, 09:12 AM   #2
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And would not a foreign adventure deflect some of the rebellious energy that went into strikes and protest movements toward an external enemy? Would it not unite people with government, with the armed forces, instead of against them?
"A foreign adventure" - what an appalling euphemism for war. But I suppose we must consider poetic license. It's hard out there for a writer.

War is almost always helpful no matter what is causing a division. If you can get the public on board, which, initially, is easily done using a variety of tactics with fear in the forefront then it will be smooth sailing for awhile. It certainly helped unite the country after the election in 2000 when everyone was walking around trying to figure out what the hell had just happened. The war in Iraq, just after 9/11, catapulted Bush’s job approval rating to 90%.

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This was probably not a conscious plan among most of the elite -- but a natural development from the twin drives of capitalism and nationalism."
Well perhaps the first ten times it's not a conscious plan just great timing, but eventually...
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