2012 US General Election Discussions: Start to Finish

[SelfMadeMan]

It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded, it is someone’s fault if they failed. If you don’t have a job, and you’re not rich, blame yourself
– Herman Cain

Mr. Cain - the unemployment rate in the US is a statistic made up of individuals ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR JOBS. It's right around 8% right now. This means that 8% of the Americans that desperately WANT a job can’t get a job. So please enlighten me, how exactly is that THEIR fault? If you lose it all because your employer terminates thousands of jobs, and yours happens to be one of those jobs, and because of that, you lose your home, your life savings, and consequently, your credit rating falls in the crapper, please explain to me how that is YOUR fault? This is the pitfall of the blatantly ignorant ideology of Herman Cain, and the majority of the Tea Party & far right supporters touting him as the next big thing. They would like us not to believe that environment, the economy, and big government matter - that big corporations & government aren't accountable at all. They would like us to believe that it is the individual - the ones losing their homes, losing it all and suffering, because they CAN'T get a job, who are at fault. It's bullshit - and it needs to be called out as such. /rant

[atomiczombie]

Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded, it is someone’s fault if they failed. If you don’t have a job, and you’re not rich, blame yourself
– Herman Cain

Mr. Cain - the unemployment rate in the US is a statistic made up of individuals ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR JOBS. It's right around 8% right now. This means that 8% of the Americans that desperately WANT a job can’t get a job. So please enlighten me, how exactly is that THEIR fault? If you lose it all because your employer terminates thousands of jobs, and yours happens to be one of those jobs, and because of that, you lose your home, your life savings, and consequently, your credit rating falls in the crapper, please explain to me how that is YOUR fault? This is the pitfall of the blatantly ignorant ideology of Herman Cain, and the majority of the Tea Party & far right supporters touting him as the next big thing. They would like us not to believe that environment, the economy, and big government matter - that big corporations & government aren't accountable at all. They would like us to believe that it is the individual - the ones losing their homes, losing it all and suffering, because they CAN'T get a job, who are at fault. It's bullshit - and it needs to be called out as such. /rant

Actually, it's 8 percent among whites. It is about double that for african americans and latinos.

[SelfMadeMan]

I just checked the Bureau of Labor Statistics website and it was reported as 9.1% overall in September...

[Toughy]

Herman Cain will NEVER EVER be the GOP Presidential nominee in 2012. He might be picked as a VP, but not the President.....

no way in hell will the right tolerate having 2 black men running against each other for President....no way, no how. Actually I have my doubts they will pick him for VP because that could mean another black man for President should something happen to their white man.

[Toughy]

So Rick Perry's son is an investment banker and the SEC rules say he cannot campaign with his father as long as he has a job as an investment banker. Son quit his job so he can help out dear ole Dad.

Mother says that her son lost his job because of the over-regulation of banking by the Obama administration. It's Obama's fault her son lost his job. She sympathizes with the unemployed.

Does anyone in the family have a working brain?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1011632.html

[SelfMadeMan]

"George W. Bush did a incredible job in the presidency, defending us from freedom." –Rick Perry

That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with here...

[Linus]

Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

"George W. Bush did a incredible job in the presidency, defending us from freedom." –Rick Perry

That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with here...

From freedom, eh? At least someone admits it!

[SelfMadeMan]

"If you're envious of somebody that happens to be rich, that you call a fat cat - go and get rich, instead of expecting them to walk outside of their office and write you a check. That's not how America works, WORK FOR IT"
- Herman Cain

Yeah Cain, it's that easy. Those of us who aren't rich, it's because we just don't work hard enough for it, we don't take advantage of this prosperous economy offered to us. Moron.

[Soon]

Herman Cain Addresses Sexual Harassment Settlement

/snip/

Cain entered the Press Club less than 24 hours after Politico reported that the former Godfather's Pizza CEO and head of the National Restaurant Association was accused of sexual harassment by two unnamed women at the association. The charges were not detailed but Politico reported that both women received payments as settlement. NBC News reported Monday that they had independently confirmed a settlement with one of the two women.
...
Cain was not asked how he could have been unaware of a settlement if he knew the results of an investigation into the charges. He said that once the charges were brought against him he recused himself from the investigation.
And he added that he does not want the NRA to confirm or deny the settlements, or give any information at all about the incidents.

[Linus]

Originally Posted by SelfMadeMan

It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded, it is someone’s fault if they failed. If you don’t have a job, and you’re not rich, blame yourself
– Herman Cain

Mr. Cain - the unemployment rate in the US is a statistic made up of individuals ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR JOBS. It's right around 8% right now. This means that 8% of the Americans that desperately WANT a job can’t get a job. So please enlighten me, how exactly is that THEIR fault? If you lose it all because your employer terminates thousands of jobs, and yours happens to be one of those jobs, and because of that, you lose your home, your life savings, and consequently, your credit rating falls in the crapper, please explain to me how that is YOUR fault? This is the pitfall of the blatantly ignorant ideology of Herman Cain, and the majority of the Tea Party & far right supporters touting him as the next big thing. They would like us not to believe that environment, the economy, and big government matter - that big corporations & government aren't accountable at all. They would like us to believe that it is the individual - the ones losing their homes, losing it all and suffering, because they CAN'T get a job, who are at fault. It's bullshit - and it needs to be called out as such. /rant

Totally agree with your rant. But would like to point out that the unemployment rate is 9.1% (source: Google Public Data) (just to be an annoying nit-pick )

ETA: I decided to see what California was: 12% New York State, on the other hand, is 8%

[SelfMadeMan]

Originally Posted by Linus

Totally agree with your rant. But would like to point out that the unemployment rate is 9.1% (source: Google Public Data) (just to be an annoying nit-pick )

No problemo, my numbers weren't the MOST recent... I was mad and ranted without updating my info It happens... lol