BASEBALL!

Dominique · 10-19-2011, 05:21 PM

The World Series starts in a few min. I never got back to this thread.

Yes, It sounds like it's time for people to look into the mirror and accept responsibility. (i/e the red sox) We shall see what ownership does in the way of accountability. Of course it's being talked up here, because of the size of the payroll on that team and then that type of behavior goes on. I remember telling you how your designated hitter hit a cheap infield grounder and didn't even run it out, he walked off the field into the dug out and our fans BOOed him loudly. He was looking around like (what?) And when he came up again, they were cat calling Big Pappi. We may suck, but our manager makes us play the game the way it is supposed to be played. Even John Russell did. Mannequin and all....lol. But...when Lloyd McClendon was the manager, rumors circulated, he was a vodka drinker...and was often boozed up in the dug out, and thats why they fired him with something like 18 games left......so wrong is wrong.

OK......I have my green smoothie ready to go in a beer mug! Party ON!
May the best team win, no cheating.

Starbuck · 10-19-2011, 06:23 PM

LET'S GO RANGERS!

macele · 10-20-2011, 05:55 AM

chris carpenter did a good job against an amazing texas lineup.
and cj wilson did better than i thought he would lol.
i really looked for carpenter to step up.
both sides, relief pitching, did great.

tonight, they may go back to a slug fest. i hope not.
i love to see the pitcher work his/her stuff.
big fast pitch softball fan.

tony la russa is the man.

you know mark mcqwire is the cardinals hitting coach.
i have mixed emotions about mark. but i think he may be a pretty good coach.
a player can certainly learn a lot from him.
david freese says mcqwire is a big reason for his success.
and surely mcqwire has something to do with lance berkmans resurgin'.
if we look at the cardinals hitting stats for the season and thus far, ...
something has change for the better.
i guess mcqwire does deserve a second chance. i just wish he didn't need one.

go cardinals!

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 06:26 AM

Mark McGwire, lied to a grand jury. He, and many others, tarnished baseball. Barry-roid-Bonds has yet to get his. I think NONE of them should have any association with the game. They broke the law. They should be treated like any other criminals.

I have no problem posting this about Mark.
Hence my comment last night, NO CHEATING!

macele · 10-20-2011, 06:47 AM

i agree, no cheating. we have to earn it, on our own, no help. no steroids.
that's why i say i have mixed emotions. i watched closely when he went for
roger maris' record. how emotional he was with the maris' family. he did wrong.
it's about more than just cheating. he did maris wrong. maybe he should be thrown out of baseball entirely.
i know for sure he doesn't belong in the hall of fame.
but i do believe in 2nd chances. even 3rd and 4th, sometimes.

i love to collect. i bought the wheaties box with mcqwire on it, when he broke the record.
i still have the box, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. i also have the cal ripken wheaties box, ... that one means something.

macele · 10-20-2011, 06:52 AM

well, the wheaties box does mean something. he cheated to get it.
that box has a "broken heart".

AtLast · 10-20-2011, 09:14 AM

Yup, LaRussa cleaned it up. Something about Oakland and dirty play and it just seems like no matter what, managers or coaches in Oakland end up being called dirty, I think. The Raiders have always had a bad rep. I have never liked any of the Oakland teams and I live on the East Bay side of SF! I'm glad LaRussa left and went to the Red Birds.

When he was here, however, he did a lot of work for sheltered and abused animals and also he was a big anti-date rape advocate. His daughter was a victim of date rape and LaRussa got right out there in the faces of male athletes about it. He also was involved in organizations dealing with date rape and the use of drugs by perpetrators to compromise young women. There was a very sensitive and moving mini-doc with LaRussa and his daughter that I felt demonstrated his understanding the dynamics of date rape and how it effects the self-esteem of teen girls.

I miss him being here, but Oakland atheletic teams seem to tarnish a lot of reps with the dirty play stuff. Part of me thinks it the whole stereotype that Al Davis (may he RIP- recently died) perpetuated with the Oakland Raiders. Rather be rooting for Tony in St Louis!

Kobi · 10-20-2011, 09:22 AM

Cardinals are looking good. Was nice to finally get to see them play. Carpenter is one big boy isnt he? Looks like a linebacker on the mound.

I'm hoping for some batting fireworks in a couple of these games. Both these teams can hit and I would love to see some hitting!

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macele

i agree, no cheating. we have to earn it, on our own, no help. no steroids.
that's why i say i have mixed emotions. i watched closely when he went for
roger maris' record. how emotional he was with the maris' family. he did wrong.
it's about more than just cheating. he did maris wrong. maybe he should be thrown out of baseball entirely.
i know for sure he doesn't belong in the hall of fame.
but i do believe in 2nd chances. even 3rd and 4th, sometimes.

i love to collect. i bought the wheaties box with mcqwire on it, when he broke the record.
i still have the box, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. i also have the cal ripken wheaties box, ... that one means something.

I just don't understand why Pete Rose was and still is banned from baseball, three serious words....banned from baseball. Yet we have illegal drug use, cheating and lying to a grand jury and allowed to Coach as if nothing ever happened. He did do Maris wrong. Sammy Sosa doesn't get a free pass either.

The home run derby, in my mind, will never be the same....they were hitting 40, 41 h/r's at a time during the All Star event...between corked bats and Roids. Has anyone hit 20 since? Fortunately, people forget.

I guess the weaties box is worth something....you can say this is a cheater. In professional sports, we expect them to
be superstars based on honest to goodness talent. By working hard and refining the skills. Not by corking the bats and taking the needle. Oh, and if your name is Barry-roid-Bonds, your highly paid personal trainer, outside of baseball, rubbs some special creme on your wrist. No questions, no worries.

Dominique · 10-20-2011, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macele

i love to see the pitcher work his/her stuff.
big fast pitch softball fan.Me too. I love the battery of baseball, both pitching and catching. I agree about fast pitch softball too. I don't see much of that around here.

tony la russa is the man. Tony has changed his style of managing over the years. He used to play the game a little dirty. Until people started playing him that way, then he didn't it so much and he corrected it. Plus the umpires have stepped it up and do not allow that stuff any more. He was notorious for having his player on second steal the catchers signals to the pitcher. That's a gentlemans rule in baseball. None of that. So teams started beaning his batters in the butt, or the hip (ooops)

He's the first one screaming when he has a hit bat's man now.

10-19-2011, 06:23 PM	#2
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Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	remember Pete Rose? Mark McGwire, lied to a grand jury. He, and many others, tarnished baseball. Barry-roid-Bonds has yet to get his. I think NONE of them should have any association with the game. They broke the law. They should be treated like any other criminals. I have no problem posting this about Mark. Hence my comment last night, NO CHEATING!

10-19-2011, 05:21 PM	#1
Dominique Member How Do You Identify?: Female/Lesbian/half the athlete I used to be Preferred Pronoun?: she/her Relationship Status: Dates Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: So proud to be a Pittsburgher Posts: 1,484 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 2,645 Thanked 3,730 Times in 1,166 Posts Rep Power: 21474853	The World Series starts in a few min. I never got back to this thread. Yes, It sounds like it's time for people to look into the mirror and accept responsibility. (i/e the red sox) We shall see what ownership does in the way of accountability. Of course it's being talked up here, because of the size of the payroll on that team and then that type of behavior goes on. I remember telling you how your designated hitter hit a cheap infield grounder and didn't even run it out, he walked off the field into the dug out and our fans BOOed him loudly. He was looking around like (what?) And when he came up again, they were cat calling Big Pappi. We may suck, but our manager makes us play the game the way it is supposed to be played. Even John Russell did. Mannequin and all....lol. But...when Lloyd McClendon was the manager, rumors circulated, he was a vodka drinker...and was often boozed up in the dug out, and thats why they fired him with something like 18 games left......so wrong is wrong. OK......I have my green smoothie ready to go in a beer mug! Party ON! May the best team win, no cheating.

10-20-2011, 05:55 AM	#3
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,230 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	chris carpenter did a good job against an amazing texas lineup. and cj wilson did better than i thought he would lol. i really looked for carpenter to step up. both sides, relief pitching, did great. tonight, they may go back to a slug fest. i hope not. i love to see the pitcher work his/her stuff. big fast pitch softball fan. tony la russa is the man. you know mark mcqwire is the cardinals hitting coach. i have mixed emotions about mark. but i think he may be a pretty good coach. a player can certainly learn a lot from him. david freese says mcqwire is a big reason for his success. and surely mcqwire has something to do with lance berkmans resurgin'. if we look at the cardinals hitting stats for the season and thus far, ... something has change for the better. i guess mcqwire does deserve a second chance. i just wish he didn't need one. go cardinals!

10-20-2011, 06:47 AM	#5
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,230 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	i agree, no cheating. we have to earn it, on our own, no help. no steroids. that's why i say i have mixed emotions. i watched closely when he went for roger maris' record. how emotional he was with the maris' family. he did wrong. it's about more than just cheating. he did maris wrong. maybe he should be thrown out of baseball entirely. i know for sure he doesn't belong in the hall of fame. but i do believe in 2nd chances. even 3rd and 4th, sometimes. i love to collect. i bought the wheaties box with mcqwire on it, when he broke the record. i still have the box, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. i also have the cal ripken wheaties box, ... that one means something.

10-20-2011, 06:52 AM	#6
macele Member How Do You Identify?: a bold-assed maximus Preferred Pronoun?: she Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: mississippi Posts: 1,066 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 3,178 Thanked 3,230 Times in 847 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	well, the wheaties box does mean something. he cheated to get it. that box has a "broken heart".

10-20-2011, 09:14 AM	#7
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,199 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	Yup, LaRussa cleaned it up. Something about Oakland and dirty play and it just seems like no matter what, managers or coaches in Oakland end up being called dirty, I think. The Raiders have always had a bad rep. I have never liked any of the Oakland teams and I live on the East Bay side of SF! I'm glad LaRussa left and went to the Red Birds. When he was here, however, he did a lot of work for sheltered and abused animals and also he was a big anti-date rape advocate. His daughter was a victim of date rape and LaRussa got right out there in the faces of male athletes about it. He also was involved in organizations dealing with date rape and the use of drugs by perpetrators to compromise young women. There was a very sensitive and moving mini-doc with LaRussa and his daughter that I felt demonstrated his understanding the dynamics of date rape and how it effects the self-esteem of teen girls. I miss him being here, but Oakland atheletic teams seem to tarnish a lot of reps with the dirty play stuff. Part of me thinks it the whole stereotype that Al Davis (may he RIP- recently died) perpetuated with the Oakland Raiders. Rather be rooting for Tony in St Louis!

10-20-2011, 09:22 AM	#8
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