OCCUPY WALL STREET

atomiczombie · 11-23-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Diavolo

My business puts me smack in the middle of the foreclosure debacle. And I've seen it all. Seriously. All. I've been beating a drum on the subject, but it falls on deaf ears. Here's a link to a particularly bad man who still doesn't get it.

http://www.dsnews.com/articles/baum-...ose-2011-11-22

He blames a NYT columnist for the failure of his law firm. The truth is is firm was doomed to fail because of it's depraved corporate culture. The NYT columnist was just the means to the end.

I remember seeing those disgusting Halloween office party pictures a couple weeks ago on Countdown with Keith Olbermann. I have no sympathy for this guy.

SoNotHer · 11-23-2011, 07:16 PM

MYTH #1: The congressional Super Committee failed because both sides refuse to compromise.

REALITY: The Super Committee failed because Republicans’ number one, non-negotiable priority is to protect millionaires and billionaires from paying even one more penny in taxes.1 Democrats repeatedly offered deep spending cuts (far deeper than most progressives would like) in exchange for raising taxes on the wealthy and closing corporate loopholes, only to be refused again and again.2 So even though the vast majority of Americans say they want to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits, and raise taxes on the rich and corporations,3 that won’t happen until Republicans put aside their extremist stance.

MYTH #2: Nobody knows what Occupy Wall Street is about.

REALITY: Occupy Wall Street may not have a formal list of demands, but anyone who’s been paying attention understands the core problems that occupiers are protesting–that corporations have far too much power in our political system, that Wall Street banks crashed our economy but were never held accountable, and that the richest 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans–156 million people–combined.4

MYTH #3: Occupiers should stop protesting and just get a job.

REALITY: As anybody who’s looked for a job in the last few years knows, there just aren’t jobs out there. That’s a big part of why occupiers are protesting. In September, there were four times as many unemployed people as job openings.5 And for those who are lucky enough to find a job, median wages today are lower than they were a decade ago.6

MYTH #4: Occupy Wall Street is intent on provoking violence, especially against banks and the police.

REALITY: Occupations across the country have committed themselves to nonviolent protest, in the greatest traditions of protest movements. Some of their protests have been met with acts of police violence–tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets7–but in many cases, protesters have reminded police that the police are part of the 99%, too.8 And in the few cases when people have shown up at occupations and committed acts of vandalism, other protesters have even repaired their acts of vandalism.9

MYTH #5: The biggest crisis facing our country is out of control government spending.

REALITY: The two biggest drivers of our deficit–by far–are the economic crash and the Bush tax cuts.10 We have millions of people out of work, corporations hoarding cash, and factories sitting idle. If we put all those people back to work–rebuilding infrastructure, educating our children, and researching new technologies–it’ll shrink the deficit and make our economy stronger for the long haul. And we can easily afford it if we make sure the rich–who are taking home a larger percentage of income than any time since 191711–pay their fair share.

Diavolo · 11-23-2011, 09:00 PM

Ever cook something jalapenos in it and accidentally get it in your eye? Or your nose? Scoville index on a jalapeno is max 8000. Police grade pepper spray? In excess of 2million heat units.

http://www.eatmorechiles.com/Scoville_Heat.html

I loves me some heat, but not 250 times the heat of a jalapeno sprayed in my face.

mustangjeano · 11-24-2011, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoNotHer

MYTH #1: The congressional Super Committee failed because both sides refuse to compromise.

REALITY: The Super Committee failed because Republicans’ number one, non-negotiable priority is to protect millionaires and billionaires from paying even one more penny in taxes.1 Democrats repeatedly offered deep spending cuts (far deeper than most progressives would like) in exchange for raising taxes on the wealthy and closing corporate loopholes, only to be refused again and again.2 So even though the vast majority of Americans say they want to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits, and raise taxes on the rich and corporations,3 that won’t happen until Republicans put aside their extremist stance.

MYTH #2: Nobody knows what Occupy Wall Street is about.

REALITY: Occupy Wall Street may not have a formal list of demands, but anyone who’s been paying attention understands the core problems that occupiers are protesting–that corporations have far too much power in our political system, that Wall Street banks crashed our economy but were never held accountable, and that the richest 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans–156 million people–combined.4

MYTH #3: Occupiers should stop protesting and just get a job.

REALITY: As anybody who’s looked for a job in the last few years knows, there just aren’t jobs out there. That’s a big part of why occupiers are protesting. In September, there were four times as many unemployed people as job openings.5 And for those who are lucky enough to find a job, median wages today are lower than they were a decade ago.6

MYTH #4: Occupy Wall Street is intent on provoking violence, especially against banks and the police.

REALITY: Occupations across the country have committed themselves to nonviolent protest, in the greatest traditions of protest movements. Some of their protests have been met with acts of police violence–tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets7–but in many cases, protesters have reminded police that the police are part of the 99%, too.8 And in the few cases when people have shown up at occupations and committed acts of vandalism, other protesters have even repaired their acts of vandalism.9

MYTH #5: The biggest crisis facing our country is out of control government spending.

REALITY: The two biggest drivers of our deficit–by far–are the economic crash and the Bush tax cuts.10 We have millions of people out of work, corporations hoarding cash, and factories sitting idle. If we put all those people back to work–rebuilding infrastructure, educating our children, and researching new technologies–it’ll shrink the deficit and make our economy stronger for the long haul. And we can easily afford it if we make sure the rich–who are taking home a larger percentage of income than any time since 191711–pay their fair share.

Very well put. Thank you

AtLast · 11-24-2011, 09:29 AM

Social movements absolutely effect change in our political system- Vietnam is a very good example of this. Yet, it took 5-7 years for this to happen. There is a lot of groundeork to this. And starting as individuals outside of protesting (keep doing that, too), we must enter the political climate via local elections on up.

I know that for our particular queer population, it isn't easy to get involved with groups outside of our comfort zone, but we have to. We have to be part of voter registration drives, volunteer to work at polling places, volunteer for candidates (and some of them will not have ALL of our stances on issues), educate our families and neighbors and just participate in the system that I know we have problems with. But, the right-wing has done this quite effectively mainly due to the assumption that they represent the majority of the electorate. They do not! The US is quite diverse.

Yes, when I have gone to some candidate meeting at someone's home, I have received the "stare" - even in a region that is touted as very open. We tend to only join political groups with people like us- and that isn't going to get to the numbers we need in the US to be heard.

This movement needs to get our messages out much sooner than in the past- and we need to join forces with people that align politically but look different than we do and take our rightful place in our democracy. I have found that most of the fears I have about joining community action groups outside of queerdom are false and that I have much more in common with people outside of my usual social groups than I realized.

This movement needs to "move" along to action that will have an impact on our political institutions much faster than in the past.

11-23-2011, 07:16 PM	#2
SoNotHer Senior Member How Do You Identify?: Professional Sandbagger and Jenga Zumba Instructor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: In the master control room of my world domination dreams Posts: 2,811 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 4,735 Times in 1,409 Posts Rep Power: 21474851	The latest Move On email -pretty cool MYTH #1: The congressional Super Committee failed because both sides refuse to compromise. REALITY: The Super Committee failed because Republicans’ number one, non-negotiable priority is to protect millionaires and billionaires from paying even one more penny in taxes.1 Democrats repeatedly offered deep spending cuts (far deeper than most progressives would like) in exchange for raising taxes on the wealthy and closing corporate loopholes, only to be refused again and again.2 So even though the vast majority of Americans say they want to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits, and raise taxes on the rich and corporations,3 that won’t happen until Republicans put aside their extremist stance. MYTH #2: Nobody knows what Occupy Wall Street is about. REALITY: Occupy Wall Street may not have a formal list of demands, but anyone who’s been paying attention understands the core problems that occupiers are protesting–that corporations have far too much power in our political system, that Wall Street banks crashed our economy but were never held accountable, and that the richest 400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans–156 million people–combined.4 MYTH #3: Occupiers should stop protesting and just get a job. REALITY: As anybody who’s looked for a job in the last few years knows, there just aren’t jobs out there. That’s a big part of why occupiers are protesting. In September, there were four times as many unemployed people as job openings.5 And for those who are lucky enough to find a job, median wages today are lower than they were a decade ago.6 MYTH #4: Occupy Wall Street is intent on provoking violence, especially against banks and the police. REALITY: Occupations across the country have committed themselves to nonviolent protest, in the greatest traditions of protest movements. Some of their protests have been met with acts of police violence–tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets7–but in many cases, protesters have reminded police that the police are part of the 99%, too.8 And in the few cases when people have shown up at occupations and committed acts of vandalism, other protesters have even repaired their acts of vandalism.9 MYTH #5: The biggest crisis facing our country is out of control government spending. REALITY: The two biggest drivers of our deficit–by far–are the economic crash and the Bush tax cuts.10 We have millions of people out of work, corporations hoarding cash, and factories sitting idle. If we put all those people back to work–rebuilding infrastructure, educating our children, and researching new technologies–it’ll shrink the deficit and make our economy stronger for the long haul. And we can easily afford it if we make sure the rich–who are taking home a larger percentage of income than any time since 191711–pay their fair share.

11-23-2011, 09:00 PM	#3
Diavolo Member How Do You Identify?: Butch Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wine Cellar Posts: 163 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 130 Thanked 433 Times in 117 Posts Rep Power: 3304128	Ever cook something jalapenos in it and accidentally get it in your eye? Or your nose? Scoville index on a jalapeno is max 8000. Police grade pepper spray? In excess of 2million heat units. http://www.eatmorechiles.com/Scoville_Heat.html I loves me some heat, but not 250 times the heat of a jalapeno sprayed in my face.

11-24-2011, 09:29 AM	#5
AtLast Infamous Member How Do You Identify?: Woman Preferred Pronoun?: HER - SHE Relationship Status: Relating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA & AZ I'm a Snowbird Posts: 5,408 My Photo Gallery Thanks: 11,826 Thanked 10,827 Times in 3,199 Posts Rep Power: 21474857	Social movements absolutely effect change in our political system- Vietnam is a very good example of this. Yet, it took 5-7 years for this to happen. There is a lot of groundeork to this. And starting as individuals outside of protesting (keep doing that, too), we must enter the political climate via local elections on up. I know that for our particular queer population, it isn't easy to get involved with groups outside of our comfort zone, but we have to. We have to be part of voter registration drives, volunteer to work at polling places, volunteer for candidates (and some of them will not have ALL of our stances on issues), educate our families and neighbors and just participate in the system that I know we have problems with. But, the right-wing has done this quite effectively mainly due to the assumption that they represent the majority of the electorate. They do not! The US is quite diverse. Yes, when I have gone to some candidate meeting at someone's home, I have received the "stare" - even in a region that is touted as very open. We tend to only join political groups with people like us- and that isn't going to get to the numbers we need in the US to be heard. This movement needs to get our messages out much sooner than in the past- and we need to join forces with people that align politically but look different than we do and take our rightful place in our democracy. I have found that most of the fears I have about joining community action groups outside of queerdom are false and that I have much more in common with people outside of my usual social groups than I realized. This movement needs to "move" along to action that will have an impact on our political institutions much faster than in the past.